Plural Eyes vs Vegas 17 syncing

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Russ-Bales wrote on 11/14/2021, 4:34 PM

@Russ-Bales

Glad it's working on your first attempt.

A suggestion for the future. If at all possible, always perform syncing BEFORE you do your main editing (this is also recommended on the PluralEyes website). If you perform syncs "before" and add the synced audio as a Take to the original camera files, then you can split, cut, move, etc. and your audio will always be in sync. Actually, this is something that PE can't do and a real advantage of ASR in my view. Just a suggestion.

Yes, a good suggestion. Thanks.

My first ASR sync was a simple two track edit and it went well.

The multi-track project, not so much. For one, I received an error that the reference track was too long in length to use with the supported format (or something to that affect). It's an external mic with no video and it's about an hour long. So I tried putting that audio file on a timeline of its own with only one other track and I didn't get the same error. Not sure what's happening there.

P.S. I tried to sync seven audio tracks at once. Within those individual tracks there are camera on/off cycles where the camera automatically starts a new file of a specified length. It didn't work. Still learning.

Peter-Riding wrote on 11/14/2021, 5:56 PM

Try launching from one of the OtterBars or OtterMenu (View|Extensions), not the Vegas script menu.

BAM! I JUST SYNCED MY FIRST PROJECT WITH TWO AUDIO FILES!

(I'll try to stop shouting now.)

Now on to the big enchilada - syncing five audio tracks (with three cams, multiple cuts, fades) here goes....

 

I think you had mentioned earlier that you are newish to multi-cam as well.

If that is the case do bear in mind that you should complete the multi-cam phase then expand it BEFORE you do any of the other fades fx's etc as you will lose edits. Finish which clips of clips you are to keep from the single multi-cam'd track then expand it back to as many "original" tracks as was the case.

When you expand you have an option whether to keep the unused parts as "muted" events (as VP calls it). I do NOT keep them because life gets confusing with so much crammed in. However I do "save as" a new version very frequently so that I do not need to start afresh if I cock something up. I also do frequent straight saves as throwing too much at VP would crash it on my old PC.

It may be that if you are trying to sync audio after you had already completed multiple fx etc that may be the cause of the audio sync problem you have referred to in your later post.

I always sync the audio and the video+audio files first, using Pluraleyes in my case. Then I create the multicam video track. Then I crop away the start and the end of the video and audio tracks to remove the parts not required. Then do the actual multicam selections, adding Markers with notes if that helps e.g. to remind you which audio track to use at each marker. Then expand the finished multicam track. Then start on the fades fx's etc.

If you have not kept the "muted events" from the multi-cam phase you can simply drag one set of events into the other so alls on the same track (so long as your fx are to be at event level rather than track level obviously). Auto-ripple also is very handy and it can include Markers and regions as well as the events - but you probably know that already.

Russ-Bales wrote on 11/14/2021, 6:05 PM

Try launching from one of the OtterBars or OtterMenu (View|Extensions), not the Vegas script menu.

BAM! I JUST SYNCED MY FIRST PROJECT WITH TWO AUDIO FILES!

(I'll try to stop shouting now.)

Now on to the big enchilada - syncing five audio tracks (with three cams, multiple cuts, fades) here goes....

 

I think you had mentioned earlier that you are newish to multi-cam as well.

If that is the case do bear in mind that you should complete the multi-cam phase then expand it BEFORE you do any of the other fades fx's etc as you will lose edits. Finish which clips of clips you are to keep from the single multi-cam'd track then expand it back to as many "original" tracks as was the case.

When you expand you have an option whether to keep the unused parts as "muted" events (as VP calls it). I do NOT keep them because life gets confusing with so much crammed in. However I do "save as" a new version very frequently so that I do not need to start afresh if I cock something up. I also do frequent straight saves as throwing too much at VP would crash it on my old PC.

It may be that if you are trying to sync audio after you had already completed multiple fx etc that may be the cause of the audio sync problem you have referred to in your later post.

I always sync the audio and the video+audio files first, using Pluraleyes in my case. Then I create the multicam video track. Then I crop away the start and the end of the video and audio tracks to remove the parts not required. Then do the actual multicam selections, adding Markers with notes if that helps e.g. to remind you which audio track to use at each marker. Then expand the finished multicam track. Then start on the fades fx's etc.

If you have not kept the "muted events" from the multi-cam phase you can simply drag one set of events into the other so alls on the same track (so long as your fx are to be at event level rather than track level obviously). Auto-ripple also is very handy and it can include Markers and regions as well as the events - but you probably know that already.

Excellent advice, Peter. Thanks. I'll certainly use the ideas.

P.S. Auto-ripple is my best friend... next to my new best friend from the Happy Otter. I'm going to keep test driving it to make sure things are going smooth. I have two weddings in the queue for now and hoping for more.