Post Edit Ripple problem

craftech wrote on 9/22/2003, 7:40 AM
Hello all,

I have done this successfully many times, but this time a non-intuitive setting or something is probably wrong.
I am deleting the color bar video/audio segment which I shot with the camera from the beginning of the timeline. That leaves a gap at the beginning on both tracks.
I post edit ripple (everything selected) and am left with a clip from the middle at the beginning of the timeline. Happens every time I tried it.
Anyone run into this?

Thanks in advance,

John

Comments

JJKizak wrote on 9/22/2003, 8:18 AM
John:
I usually activate the ripple to include everything, select the first clip only,
then drag that clip to the beginning and then everything else follows when you
let go of the drag. I don't think you have to select everything but I am still a novice at this stuff.

JJK
donp wrote on 9/22/2003, 8:40 AM
I have had that problem a bunch of times too. When I remove the first clip, it leaves a gap. I think I have post edit ripple turned on for everything. I ususaly mess with it awhile and somtime it seem to get fixed but not without some sync problems as everything else following gets moved around too and then bounces back a couple of times. I if I insert someing in front of the leading clip the ripple edit function works OK. I sure have used the edit recovery function a bunch here.
craftech wrote on 9/22/2003, 9:51 AM
I also noticed that if I place the cursor at the beginning of the timeline and "select events to end" it doesn't select them to the end of the timeline.
I stretched out the timeline and I do NOT see a blank space at the point it selects it to. It is in fact selected to the clip which ends up in the front of the timeline when I Post Edit Ripple. So I am sure the two problems are related.
I just don't understand why I haven't run into this before. Again, is there a setting I may have inadvertently changed?

John
craftech wrote on 9/22/2003, 4:43 PM
Anyone have any ideas?

John
JJKizak wrote on 9/22/2003, 5:48 PM
I don't have any ideas but I have suspitions that "quantize to frames", "sanpping", "timeline expansion", "clip drag expansion", "fade knobs", and "ripple edit" are all at some times trying to occupy the V-4
space/time continuim and its not quite right yet. Every time I find something wrong with V-4 it turns out to be hardware or driver problem and I re-humble myself.

JJK
craftech wrote on 9/24/2003, 7:18 PM
Here's what I ended up doing:

I split the audio/video color bar clips at the front of the timeline, deleted them, and chose "Select All" this time. Then I just dragged the whole damned thing over with the mouse.
I guess I was making it difficult for myself in trying to figure out why Post Edit Ripple used to work for me but doesn't on this project.

John
GaryKleiner wrote on 9/24/2003, 7:24 PM
John,

Yes, your solution was the proper way to go about it.

I am wondering though; why was moving everything to the begining of the timeline so important?

Gary
craftech wrote on 9/24/2003, 7:25 PM
I normally don't leave a blank space at the beginning of my timelines.
donp wrote on 9/24/2003, 8:30 PM
I don't either, I have found that if I first drop the audio of the clip I am going to delete at the front of the timeline to an other audio track below, then delete the vidio portion of the clip, then the remaining clips (video and audio) will snap forward , as they should with ripple edit. Then delete the audio portion of the deleted video that was moved to the other audio track. I have done that a couple of times now and it seems to fix my problem at the beginning of the timeline of leavin a gap upon deleteing a leading clip.
swarrine wrote on 9/25/2003, 5:53 AM
I agree craftech. Select all and drag. AND I use the select tool when dragging chunks of the timeline across multiple tracks.

Never have been able to trust ripple with V4. Very buggy.
DGrob wrote on 9/25/2003, 7:00 AM
Speaking of post edit ripple problems, anyone know how to lock track FX keyframe animation to events? I've taken to avoiding ripple edit at all 'cause I wind up going back in to each animated track and realigning the keyframes to the new events locations - major pain sometimes. Thanks, DGrob