Premiere to Vegas

MUTTLEY wrote on 7/23/2015, 9:47 AM

Okay, have been banging my head against the wall for a day and a half, time to see if someones done what I'm trying to do and knows what they're talking about cuz I clearly do not.

I've got a project done in Premiere. I've downloaded and installed it, project opens fine. I can export the project in a variety of formats but all of which I've tried throw up all kinds of errors and or import with the wrong video/audio and it's just a mess.

So it appears as though there are effects, nested sequences, and generated media that aren't compatible. As my need or goal is to get the clips/project into Vegas to do CC and sound as well as minor tweaks to the edit and I need to find a solution. Is there a way to, for a lack of better terms, batch render the projects so that it makes rendered clips instead of one long file so I can have control over the clips and cc on a clip by clip basis? Does that make sense? For instance in Vegas I might render out a nested portion or whatnot so all the effects are applied. And then, if so, what is the best way to export the project.

Premiere does have the "render and replace" option on the clips, which I tried doing that to everything within it and then exporting but to no avail. Seemed like it would work!!!

Hopefully that makes sense, and hopefully someone can tell me what the heck to do cuz I'm stuck! The only thing I'll add is I didn't think I'd hate Premiere as much as I do!

- Ray
Underground Planet


musicvid10 wrote on 7/23/2015, 10:47 AM
I think you're up against a wall.
Perhaps the best you can do is render a 10 bit 444 DNXHD intermediate in Premiere and move forward in Vegas.
dxdy wrote on 7/23/2015, 11:40 AM
Can you frameserve from Premiere to Vegas? I don't know whether Premiere supports frameserving.
dxdy wrote on 7/23/2015, 11:41 AM
On second thought, my suggestion doesn't accomplish what the OP wants.
MUTTLEY wrote on 7/23/2015, 12:26 PM
Losing my mind on this one, not to mention money that I frikkin need! Grrr ...

Tried using the project manager and used the DNxHD MXF 0P1a format, they don't have many to choose from, and none of the files play in Vegas though do play in VLC.

- Ray
Underground Planet
Former user wrote on 7/23/2015, 12:29 PM
Uncompressed is always a good choice.
MUTTLEY wrote on 7/23/2015, 12:36 PM
Not an option for the previously described method. I could of course render out the entire project as uncompressed but that would defeat the purpose.

- Ray
Underground Planet
Former user wrote on 7/23/2015, 1:31 PM
Your other option is to try Exporting an EDL from Premiere. You will need to make one for each video track. Then you may need to change the extension to TXT for Vegas to import it.

I tried this on a simple project and it imported the video. Of course, it will not import effects such as titles, color correction, but it should import dissolves and standard SMPTE wipes.
ushere wrote on 7/23/2015, 9:39 PM
if you're using prem haven't you got media encoder with it? i've found their broadcast xdcamhd mxf imports fine into vegas.

JohnnyRoy wrote on 7/24/2015, 7:30 AM
What you're trying to do is impossible so stop banging your head against the wall.

It's like trying to put a Ford engine into a Toyota. Yea, they are both cars but the parts are simply not compatible. Vegas Pro has no notion of nested sequences or generated media from Premiere Pro. You may get a few clips to come through but largely you will loose most of your edit. Import and export formats like XML can only exchange what is common between any two NLE's and the only thing any NLE has in common is what clip is on which track at what time for a given length. That's about it! The effects are all different and don't convert. Concepts like nested sequences or generated media have no equivalent in other NLE's. It just won't work except for a simple cuts only edit without FX.

Bottom line: you can't start a project in Premiere Pro and finish in Vegas Pro or any NLE for that matter. There are just too many features that are not in common.

The best you can do is render the entire project out from Premiere and do whatever finishing you need on the resulting video and audio track in Vegas Pro. No other editing will be allowed.

If you want to use Vegas Pro for working on the audio, you should be able to render a multi-channel MXF file from Premiere Pro and import that as a multi-track file in Vegas Pro. Of course, the tracks will have one long clip each but at least you will have multiple tracks to work with.

Next time I would pick one NLE and stick with it for the entire project. ;-)

MUTTLEY wrote on 7/24/2015, 9:49 AM

Yea, after a day and a half of trying to find a solution and talking to both Sony & Adobe I cut my losses and had Permiere open on one screen, Vegas the other. Right click on the clip in Premiere, choose "Open In Explorer," drag the clip onto the timeline in Vegas. Did that for each and every. Now about midway through reassembly. But at least I'm making progress! Couldn't do the full thing, I'm doing CC and didn't want to slice and dice a full rendered vid, and some of which I'll wanted to do the CC on the actual clip in Project Media than every one individually. Not to mention their cut needs some tweaking. What really sucks is I was able to render out the clips which had a bit of extra head and tail and had gone through a similar process and was nearly complete before I realized I'd rather have the latitude of working with the actual source files. *blah*

Wish there was an easier way but couldn't wait on a solution any longer. Wish I woulda cut my loses sooner and given up on finding an "easy" solution. Thanks for the feedback.

- Ray
Underground Planet