Premiere to Vegas back to Premiere back to V.....

Togotoon wrote on 6/13/2003, 10:17 AM

Folks,

As a current Premiere user, I have recently stumbled upon yet another performance issue with it that again has me leaning over the fence and glancing at Vegas 4. I have never had any performance issues (yet) with my off/on trials with Vegas, but have yet to accept it warmly with open arms due to some frustrating problems that I've had with trying to accomplish some of the most simplistic of tasks that I can achieve with Premiere in seconds. I'm not a manual reader, so again,...I get what I deserve when it comes to frustrations with new apps, but I never read the Premiere app book once either.
Why is it that no matter what I do when I'm trying to use either a video effect or a transition effect I can never get the darn effect to fade in nicely and exit nicely? It's always so abrupt that it looks,..well,... cheap!
I see the key frames, but they are so clumsy to mess with and even after I set them for the effect, they do come in and go out as I have set them,..but the transition into and out of is out of my control. I know,...that I'm missing something here,..but my god why does it have to be so hard to find? Ughh!

Ok,...that being said,...I think Vegas is a VERY VERY VERY nice app and I hate it because everytime I have yet another problem with Premiere,...I keep hearing that voice in my head that whispers Vegas. I have stuck with Premiere since version 5,...but I have been told that 7 will blow all others away. (Not so convinced).

I also see a big debate about the future of Vegas due to the Sony Takeover....Sooooo,..I'm still torn. I just want a good solid NLE that I can use for the long haul.

td

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DJFreaq wrote on 6/21/2003, 9:24 PM

Fortunatly, for me. I took one glance at Premiere, and never touched it again. I wasn't big into vid-editing back then anyway. I tried tons of programs, MGI VideoWave was a cheap shit, and now it's even cheaper since they've been bought out by Roxio. I tried Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7, which was alright except I just didn't like the feel of it. I can say easily that Vegas is quite possibly the best video editor out there, after I got totally comfortable with using it I never once used Ulead again when I got out of my comfort zone with Vegas. It just takes some getting used to but it is by far the most powerful program out there, hands down.

Adam

DJFreaq wrote on 6/21/2003, 9:31 PM

yea i gotta agree with you, DVDA seems to mess up from time to time. What i really want is to go down to hollywood and steal whatever they use to master their dvds. I mean i want all kinds of crazy effects like animations between menus the whole works.

no other program out there seems to do any of the really special stuff yet... we'll see, this adobe jobbie sounds promissing

adam

juan2003 wrote on 6/22/2003, 12:13 AM

Everyday, I clean my BIG AND FAT ASS with a Premier 6.5 logo, truly!

Fortunately, Premier was, is and will be a BIG LOSER!!

My sincere greetings at all users and worker's Sonic Foundry. :) ;)

Juan Pastor, from Lima, Peru.

bye bye!!

filmy wrote on 6/22/2003, 7:41 AM

juan2003 - using a pinnacle board with Premiere by any chance?

SonyEPM wrote on 6/23/2003, 9:43 AM

"those tools still possess high-level features such as three-way color correction that Vegas lacks"

As most of you know, this particular high-level feature shipped with Vegas 4.

filmy wrote on 6/23/2003, 10:18 AM

SonicEPM - you should let Digit magaize know this so they can, hopefully, correct the reviewer. I am guessing you ("you" = SoFo parent HQ here in the US) never saw the entire review? Or would that only go to SoFO's distributor in the UK?

Paul_Holmes wrote on 6/23/2003, 10:41 AM

I used Premiere for 3 years, but finally decided to use Vegas 3. Having used Acid for quite a while I found a lot of things easy, but there were many things I used to do in Premiere I couldn't figure out how to do in Vegas. After visiting the forums for a while and actually looking things up in help occasionally I saw that not only could I do everything I used to do in Premiere (once I learned how), but I could do it better and quicker.

Every new program has a learning curve. I spent many many many frustrating hours with Premiere trying to get it to do certain things. When I look at the time I spent in Premiere to achieve certain effects compared to Vegas, there IS no comparison!

Like so many others, it's Vegas all the way and Premiere is fast fading into the dusty recesses of my mind.

If you're a busy professional then it's probably harder to make the transition if you're in the middle of projects, but just keep visiting the forums and keep playing and pretty soon you'll realize how much quicker you can achieve things in Vegas.

Vegas 4 gives you color-correction capabilites only found in very expensive programs and Satish's 3DLE plug-in gives you complete control over perspective. Titling is somewhat basic with Vegas, but it's priced so low, adding a good titling program still keeps everything cost-effective.