Hello
i need few answer about Vegas pro 19 or up , im making a project advertising presentation on TV 4k 65" format vertical 9 x 16 2160 x 3840 , can i do it with Vegas Pro ? , H265 is supported in vegas?
@tom-medrzak Hi, the simple answer is , Yes
The answer is actually no and Impossible.
VEGAS Pro never support 9x16 beyond 1080x1920. Anything exceed 4K will max out the render template to
3840 x 2304 . I really hope VEGAS support 4K 9x16.
@alifftudm95 What's this then if not 9:16 4k 2160x3840
I think you're mistaken with the AVC render, HEVC Does do 9:16. 2160 x 3840
this is the Vegas rendered file
https://youtube.com/shorts/R8mtZGKFq94
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N0w6zCNIt781gTvGltxL_Qv432h0rHIy/view?usp=sharing
@alifftudm95 What's this then if not 9:16 4k 2160x3840
I think you're mistaken with the AVC render, HEVC Does do 9:16. 2160 x 3840
this is the Vegas rendered file
https://youtube.com/shorts/R8mtZGKFq94
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N0w6zCNIt781gTvGltxL_Qv432h0rHIy/view?usp=sharing
I never knew it works, however, the quality coming from HEVC render is very bad. I change the bitrate to higher value and change the encode mode to best quality, my VEGAS Pro stuck & crash.
I notice it switches to MainConcept whenever the frame height is set to greater than 2160.
So, IMO the render coming from vegas for 4K in 9x16 is unusable for client work.
Vegas outputs 8K via Voukoder.
General
Complete name : C:\Users\John\Desktop\Render\4320x7680.mov
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt 0000.02 (qt )
File size : 71.4 MiB
Duration : 7 s 241 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 82.7 Mb/s
Writing application : Lavf58.76.100
Video
ID : 1
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Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L6@Main
Codec ID : hev1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 7 s 241 ms
Bit rate : 82.5 Mb/s
Width : 7 680 pixels
Height : 4 320 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.083
Stream size : 71.2 MiB (100%)
Writing library : x265 3.4+2-g02d2f496c:[Windows][MSVC 1916][64 bit] 8bit+10bit+12bit
Encoding settings : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / numa-pools=12 / wpp / no-pmode
/ no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1
/ input-res=7680x4320 / interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=0
/ high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=3 / no-allow-non-conformance
/ no-repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0
/ no-temporal-layers / open-gop / min-keyint=25 / keyint=250
/ gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0
/ rc-lookahead=20 / lookahead-slices=8 / scenecut=40
/ hist-scenecut=0 / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64
/ min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32
/ tu-inter-depth=1
/ tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=0 / dynamic-rd=0.00
/ no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0
/ no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3
/ limit-refs=1 / no-limit-modes / me=1 / subme=2 / merange=57
/ temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb
/ no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=0:0 / sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=3
/ selective-sao=4 / early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast
/ no-cu-lossless / b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00
/ psy-rdoq=0.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0
/ rc=crf / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0
/ stats-read=0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2
/ aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32
/ no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1
/ overscan=0
/ videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=2 / transfer=2 / colormatrix=2
/ chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / cll=0,0 / min-luma=0
/ max-luma=255 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info
/ slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps
/ no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.03
/ no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / no-hdr10 / no-hdr10-opt
/ no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0
/ analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0
/ scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1
/ refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct
/ refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0
/ no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field
/ qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / no-scenecut-aware-qpconformance-window-offsets
/ right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass
Color range : Limited
Codec configuration box : hvcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : ALAC
Codec ID : alac
Codec ID/Info : Apple Lossless Audio Codec
Duration : 7 s 168 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 198 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Stream size : 173 KiB (0%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
@john_dennis Unless I'm mistaken your media info shows 16:9? Does it play as 9:16?
@john_dennis Voukoder able to export 4K in 9x19 using the H264 template if Im not wrong. However, there is also known bug in Voukoder causing the audio to drift few m/s when rendering. Its noticeable IMO.
I analyzed the audio issue and determined that the actual output file is OK. When the the file is placed back on the Vegas timeline, the offset of the audio varies with the Vegas decoder used.
@alifftudm95 What's this then if not 9:16 4k 2160x3840
I think you're mistaken with the AVC render, HEVC Does do 9:16. 2160 x 3840
this is the Vegas rendered file
https://youtube.com/shorts/R8mtZGKFq94
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N0w6zCNIt781gTvGltxL_Qv432h0rHIy/view?usp=sharing
How have you managed to get this work???! Like @alifftudm95 said, I cannot get the height to go beyond 2304. Anything I put in height field, gets automatically reduced to 2304.
How have you managed to get this work???! Like @alifftudm95 said, I cannot get the height to go beyond 2304. Anything I put in height field, gets automatically reduced to 2304.
It is possible in Vegas 19 and above
@crazyapple In my pictures you've quoted (Former User) that is done with the HEVC render, I guess they've upgraded this because it can now be done with AVC, I've used AVC Portrait without thinking about it a few times 😂 I use Voukoder more often.
As j-v says it depends on your Vegas version?
Aaah I'm on Vegas pro 18.
I did find an interesting reddit post about a potential workaround that I'm going to try on my Vegas version, it looks promising.
@crazyapple Just opened 18, don't know what to add, I don't remember if it could or couldn't do this, but it just rendered 9:16 3640x2160 no problem, I even had a preset already in the list
Rendered out info
@crazyapple Just opened 18, don't know what to add, I don't remember if it could or couldn't do this, but it just rendered 9:16 3640x2160 no problem, I even had a preset already in the list
Rendered out info
Yes mate, I can confirm I could do it with VP18. Bit of a workaround, but that reddit post I mentioned earlier helped :)