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videoITguy wrote on 6/28/2016, 6:20 PM
Forget the .pdf capture - it will not be worth all the trouble.

There are several professional ways to gather timeline info and feedback from third-parties. The most universal is to use timecode (which VegasPro has the correct options to use) for printing video stream to disc or tape.

Another companion option is to use a free script out for VegasPro that allows you to capture timeline edits into a storyboard. This comes close to what you are purporting to do, but it should be used along with timecode, not without it.

The best option is to have storyboard software available to you and the client in which you can leverage even better the above two options.
rmack350 wrote on 6/28/2016, 7:22 PM
I don't know of an automated way to do it but I think it could be done somewhat manually, especially with a script tool like Vegasaur (not free).

For starters, you can easily copy a list of your timeline events from the edit details window. To simplify things, set it to "Show: Events", Rename the view to some custom name and then save it, then drag away the column headers you don't want to use. I'd keep the Timecode Start column in addition to Length and Active Take Name.

Now click the top left cell to select the whole table and key Ctrl+C to copy it. You can then paste it into Word or Excel Notepad or whatever.

Next you want to get first frame images of all the events. It looks like Vegasaur will do that in two processes from Vegasaur's Timeline Menu. The first process would be to use the Marker tool to set a marker at the head of each event. You get a choice of what to use for a label. Play with that, I'm not sure what's best but for the next step I think you could leave things blank.

The next step is to use Vegasaur's Snapshot tool to grab snapshots at every marker that you previously placed with the Marker tool. The snapshot tool will grab shots and show them in it's window, you then need to select them all and save them.

What you end up with is a folder full of images that should include in their names the label option from the marker tool plus the timecode. So now you should have a text list of events and a bunch of stills with names that could match the text in the list. Once you've done it a few times then it shouldn't take more than 10 or 15 minutes to get this far. Your next step is to combine all this in a table or HTML page. That'll be tedious.

There are probably some other ways to skin this cat but this is the method that comes to mind.

Probably what you really want is a single button to push that does it all. Maybe that exists. Everything I described except for the final assembly is scriptable, and in fact the final assembly might be scriptable as well.

Rob
ushere wrote on 6/28/2016, 10:09 PM
i have been working with clients and timecode for over 30+ years...

why not simply supply them with a tc burnin that shows both source and master tc on screen?



TeetimeNC wrote on 6/29/2016, 8:11 AM
Same here ushere. I render with timecode display to a very low bitrate and upload to Vimeo. Client reviews and notes changes by timecode. I haven't done this, but for very long videos you could add a "repeat and speed" control to chrome to play faster than realtime.

Jerry
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videoITguy wrote on 6/29/2016, 9:20 AM
Printing a video stream to disc from VegasPro is ridiculously easy including a variety of runtime and true timecode.

For those of us with a recent editing career, we have access to giving client review on DVD players that have true jog wheels (recall what those are?) with all shuttle speeds fwd and reverse. Many software players are equipped with jog wheels as well. Very easy for the client to use.
rraud wrote on 6/29/2016, 9:49 AM
I am currently working on a project which has 60+ interview clips, each with a marker/name. I copied the Marker list and pasted that to a Notepad file. I printed it out for a working hard copy reference, but could have easily 'printed' it to PDF.
I suppose you could do the same with the project media or edit list.
rmack350 wrote on 6/29/2016, 2:24 PM
Yep. A window burn was the obvious answer. I was assuming the OP knew they didn't want one.

Rob
Former user wrote on 6/29/2016, 3:10 PM
It sounds like you are wanting a storyboard mode that you can print. Unfortunately Vegas does not have this mode.
videoITguy wrote on 6/29/2016, 3:39 PM
But fortunately there is a storyboard creation script written for VegasPro that will allow a cuts edit timeline to be created as a storyboard view. You can print this to a .pdf file with full fledged .pdf capture system software aboard.
BUT still my suggestion in my first post still applies as relevant to the OP.
Former user wrote on 6/29/2016, 3:49 PM
videoITguy, where can I get the storyboard script? I am not familiar with it.

Nevermind, I think I found it.

[url=http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?messageid=627755]

edit again:this one creates an html, is there one that creates a PDF?
rmack350 wrote on 6/29/2016, 5:16 PM
There are lots of free utilities that will create a PDF through your Pint dialog. You open the html page and then print it as a PDF.

Rosebud's script very nearly does what the OP was asking for, except that it doesn't show durations.

Rob
wwaag wrote on 6/29/2016, 8:55 PM
Here's a quick and dirty example of what you can do with Vegasaur along the lines suggested by Rob.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0sblw01nkgl9728/timeline.pdf?dl=0

To get event durations, first create regions for each event. Under Edit Details, copy the Length column and then create text events using Vegasaur's Text Generation Wizards. In this way the snapshot for the first frame for each event will also include its duration. To make sure the thumbnails are in the correct sequence, the snapshots must be saved as a sequence and the file names from the region names must be added using a rename utility. At that point, you can print a contact strip from Windows or use some other photo printing program to print directly to a PDF.

wwaag

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ushere wrote on 6/29/2016, 10:31 PM
just a quick observation re op original request.

how does the client assess a clip if he doesn't SEE the whole take (other than perhaps opening / closing jpg). what happens if there is, say, bad focus, wobble cam, intrusive elements in the middle of the shot?

(r) sounds like the producer / director / whatever is a typical mba. video is NOT word processing, no matter what they're led to believe at uni (/r)
Grazie wrote on 6/29/2016, 10:46 PM
+ 1 Leslie.

And what should be being asked is, just what is the proposed outcome or purpose of giving client material? Who's asked for it and why? I've found motive a good starting point for deciding just what I should do with clients. Like, why are we making this video? - That often helps!

G
rmack350 wrote on 6/30/2016, 12:40 AM
how does the client assess a clip if he doesn't SEE the whole take

We may never know if Adam never comes back. However, I guess this sort of printed page could be useful as a worksheet to mark up while watching the window dub.