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BillyBoy wrote on 3/31/2005, 6:44 AM
I recently switched to Verbatim too after having a whole bunch of "R" brand media fail one after another. Maybe just a bad batch. I think the saturation on the Verbatim is somewhat better than the "R" brand. Again that's not a absolute. Maybe it could be my printer, or ink or... who knows. Your mileage may varry.

Just curious, what version of Verbatim media are you using now?
Randy Brown wrote on 3/31/2005, 6:46 AM
mentioned here about 6 - 7 months ago problems with Ritek were cropping up a lot (after years of being the best to use) ..
After so many people here recommending Ritek I bought two 100 packs of the Ritek Ridatas that were on sale at Meritline and got about 30% media failure errors in DVDA2. I went back to the el cheapo Prodisc and get about 1% errors now (but usually can burn even that 1% if I choose a slower speed).
Randy
JJKizak wrote on 3/31/2005, 6:53 AM
Like I said in the other thread, maybe it's time to offer the JVC D-VHS tapes as certified backup.

JJK
B_JM wrote on 3/31/2005, 7:07 AM
some Verbatim are real crap (made by CMC awhile ago - no longer) and some are real good (made by MCC and TAIYO YUDEN)

saying Verbatim means nothing without saying which media codes ..

8X Verbatim DVD-R Datawrite Printable is made by Mitsubishi -- you can buy the same thing 50% cheaper by buying Prodisc printable 8x dvd-r - media code MCC 02RG20 for both
craftech wrote on 3/31/2005, 7:20 AM
Another good brand of discs is Verbatim, we burn through millions of them every year and have yet to have any problems with them. They have a great printable surface as well, they hold up black better than any disc I have ever seen. With most other discs the blacks tend to turn out to be a washed out dark brown but with the verbatim's it's a true black.
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Which Media ID? MCC 02RG20 ?

John
Jsnkc wrote on 3/31/2005, 7:48 AM
We're still using the white 4X Verbatims for the inkjet....8X for the thermals.


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MCC 01RG20 ]
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Disc Type : [DVD-R]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC 01RG20 ]
Disc Application Code : [Unrestricted Use : Consumer Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [1x - 2x - 4x]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3 MB = 4.38 GB]
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[DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com]
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The reason we use Verbatim is becasue Verbatim is licenced media and Prodisc is not.
BillyBoy wrote on 3/31/2005, 8:55 AM
Maybe I'm just missing something but how do you identify or specify a particular type BEFORE you buy it? I know there is software that reads for lack of a better word codes, but that's after the fact.

On a related question if you have an older 2X or 4X DVD burner do you need to upgrade the firmware to use 8X speed media? I was in a retail store the other day and reading the fine print on the label (8X media) is pretty much had a disclaimer saying the media may or may not work if you didn't.

If so is that true for all burners or only some makes?
B_JM wrote on 3/31/2005, 9:03 AM
licenced media? both are types are the same thing -- who told you one was "licenced media" and one was not? Because it is not true ..




B_JM wrote on 3/31/2005, 9:06 AM
BillyBoy - better bulk media agents will have the media code on the website - as well as some also listing the grades ...

JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/31/2005, 9:50 AM
> On a related question if you have an older 2X or 4X DVD burner do you need to upgrade the firmware to use 8X speed media?

Sometimes not even that works. I have a Pioneer A05 which is rated at DVD-RW 2x. I just bought a spindle of Ridata DVD-RW 4x and the drive won’t even recognize them and I have installed the latest firmware! It’s pretty scary if companies are discontinuing older media because the new stuff just doesn’t work in older drives.

~jr
Jsnkc wrote on 3/31/2005, 9:53 AM
There was a thing a while back where Phillips was going after duplicators for not using media that was licenced by them. I know a lof of duplicators were sued and a some of them were shut down, we've always stuck with Verbatim to avoid anything like that. I know there were a bunch of articles about it but I don't remember exactly where they were from.
Here's where you can check to see if your media is licenced or not.
Coursedesign wrote on 3/31/2005, 10:00 AM
According to this web site, Prodisc is licensed.

If the media code is indeed the same as Verbatim, this would seem an easy choice at a fraction of the price.

B.J.
Jsnkc wrote on 3/31/2005, 10:17 AM
All I know is that I while back I used some Prodisc DVD-R's and I had nothing but problems with them. There were a LOT of compatability and burning issues. I have no idea what the media code was on them since I threw most of them away because of all the problems. At least for our company it's worth spending the extra 10 cents a disc to make sure we get something that will work and make our clients happy.
kentwolf wrote on 3/31/2005, 11:39 AM
>>...Ritek printable DVDs...

I have been using these with no problems at all.

I buy in batches of 100 and burn at 2.4, max bit rate of 6K though.

No problems at all here.
B_JM wrote on 3/31/2005, 12:39 PM
MCC is covered - in as much as they (along wth Sony and all are the names on the lic) - they are also listed in the database


prodisk or Ty or verbatium are all covered ..

a lot of duplication places dont pay the ac3 , video , dts (now suspended) fees i suspect (adds up to about 1 cent per disk it seems) .. home users sure dont .. nor almost any corp users ..

B_JM wrote on 3/31/2005, 12:40 PM
sure makes sense -- but its the exact same disk ... made in the same plant at the same time ..