If you are being serious, would I be happy with the results or just have a bunch of loose paper laying around. Do they offer binding? What about front to back printing and size?

Dave is being serious about it. There has been a lot of discussion about this when V4 was first released (and probably with V3 & V2 as well). Kinkos does a good job at printing and binding. Not sure about the cost but probably around $50-60?

Or

You can buy a new cartridge for your printer and let 'r rip. For some people, the cost of a copy in draft mode isn't that great, but a lot of people like the color.

The on-line version isn't that bad since you can search through it very easily.

TomG

Thanks TomG for your input. I will give Kinko's a call tomorrow.

It's only about $25 if you get black and white printing, with basic binding and covers.

You can for roughly the same price (color ink is expensive) print out the PDF file. Nice if you have a color printer. In fact what I did. I happen to have a binding machine and a box of those little combs, so I could finish it myself. Its not a hard project, just takes time. If you try and you probably would want to print on both sides of the paper so it looks finished, beware of Murphy's Law. Just once, if your printer picks two sheets of paper at once or you shuffle the order when flipping over to the other side, any pages from that point on won't be in the proper order. Avoid by doing the whole thing is little steps, maybe twenty pages at a time. So if you or the printer messes up, you don't have to do the whole thing over. Even on plain paper the color images make a world of difference.

Sure you can print it yourself, but why bother? Let Kinko's suffer the quality control, printer wear and tear, and other headaches. For 25 clams, it's worth it to avoid the aggravation.

I'm happy with my Kinko's-produced Vegas manual. A lot of cool stuff in there!

I just took my Vegas, DVD-A and Acid mauals to Kinkos for printing. Two sided printing, a nice plastic cover and spiral binding. All three for $57 total. I'm very happy with what I got.

You can also have OfficeMax print and bind the manual, which is what I did. Just supply them the PDF on a CD. I had both Vegas and DVDA bound together. Cost was just under $30 and they did a nice job. Lots of choices for the cover and back. I used a clear cover and black back.

Whatever happened to the days when the software company provided the printed manual? Even Adobe has jumped on the 'let's cheat our customers' bandwagon by not including a printed user guide with CS (potential buyers beware).

Would you go to Kinko's to print the manual for your new car? Or your new VCR? Or TV? I think not. We are all fools, IMO, for letting the software companies get away with this kind of stuff!

Jake

I agree! Blame Microsoft for starting the trend some years back. I can still remember, in fact I still have my original DOS 2.0 manual. Not only did it come in a high quality hard cover ring binder so you could easily add/remove pages, it was printed on high quality glossy paper and it was thicker than a bible. Hundreds and hundreds of pages. Oh well... those days are long gone.

In defense of the software industry they concluded few people read manuals (just read a handful of forum posts you know that's true) and today getting a manual is considered a bonus. You usually pay extra buying a third party book or running to the print shop to print out a PDF file.

Good analogy; you don't need to print out your car manual. LOL!

"just read a handful of forum posts you know that's true".

How true! How many times do you see someone giving the advice to RTFM?

I still have my old DOS manuals with the three-ring binders and fondly remember the days when all you had to do was replace the old pages with the new ones they'd send. I even remember the days when Microsoft would send out free 'fix' disks unsolicited.

Memories ...

Those WERE the good old days. Just think all the trees saved. ;-)