Processor for 4K Editing

Luke-Power wrote on 12/2/2020, 2:43 PM

I just purchased vegas 18 with the intention to begin recording and editing my video in 4K. For this task, I am building a new computer. I am debating between the i7 and i9 processors. The i7 (2.9 GHz) is just below the 3.0 recommended GHz for 4K editing. The i7 can store 9MB of cache, whereas the i9 can hold 12MB. My projects typically involve a few hours of raw footage. Is the i9 worth an extra $225? Thanks.

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andyrpsmith wrote on 12/2/2020, 4:25 PM

I'm currently using an i5 3570K @ 4.0GHz (3rd gen) which runs fine in V18 with 4K so either i7 or i9 is likely to be OK. I also run an Nvidia 1080Ti on a 1080P screen which works fine in Vegas. If you afford the i9 then go for it. Recommended 32GB ram for 4K.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Dexcon wrote on 12/2/2020, 4:45 PM

This is not an empirical assessment, but my approach has fairly much been to go with the better specification where the options have been short-listed, It's been recommended by many over the years in areas as diverse as cars, whitegoods, home tech, etc to opt for the best specification that you can afford. A clear advantage with computers is that the higher spec'd computer is more likely to be useful into the future as software develops over the years and requires more and more from your computer. Some things like RAM can usually be added on to or replaced in later years to update the computer as needed.

I can't think of a time when I've ended up regretting spending (grudgingly) those extra $$$ for the better specs whereas there have been times when I've kicked myself for going 'budget-style' just to save some $$$ at the time of purchase.

Re i7 or i9, do an online search for reviews of comparisons between the 2 processors that you are considering. There's usually heaps of reviews which often are full of test results comparing the two as well as having observations from the reviewers.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

john_dennis wrote on 12/2/2020, 4:56 PM

Don't ignore the AMD processor offerings. Ryzen 9 3900X / 5900X.

lenard wrote on 12/2/2020, 6:23 PM

Something with 8 fast cores (16 threads) as minimum

TheRhino wrote on 12/3/2020, 6:41 PM

I've been building my own workstations specifically to run Vegas for paid work since V 3.0 around 20 years ago... IMO, CURRENTLY the $300 I9-9900K (from Microcenter) & $400 I9-10850K are the best bang/buck CPUs right now if your PRIMARY app is Vegas. At those prices, IMO you should NOT drop down to an I7 - you can save the price difference somewhere else in your system that is easier to upgrade, like the GPU... Note that the 10850K uses the newer 1200 motherboards which typically provide more features (faster network, etc.) & some degree of upgradability for the same price as an older 1151 motherboard required for the 9900K...

There is NOTHING wrong with choosing an AMD 39xx CPU or waiting for the new 5xxx CPUs to be available, but it may be a while before Vegas is able to use their potential as well as it does Intel CPUs with built-in iGPU / Quicksync video...

Since Vegas is built on older code, it THRIVES on core clock speed not necessarily having more than 8-10 cores... Therefore my 8-core I9-9900K overclocked to 5 ghz & VEGA 64 LQ combo performs nearly as good as a more expensive 16-core AMD 3950X & Nvidia 2080ti on most of the types of 4K editing I do for daily paid work... Intel I9 CPUs benefit from their built-in Quicksync video / Intel iGPU so IMO it is like have an extra GPU and/or more cores that current apps actually know how to utilize vs. more CPU cores that mostly just idle...

On that note, recently a client with 16 hours of 4K video spanning 8 different VEG files wanted me to render-out a different intermediate and ship it to him ASAP. I was busy doing another job on a different workstation, so I literally opened ALL 8 VEGs on my 9900K & had ALL 8 render at once. The CPU hit 100%, the VEGA about 50%, intel iGPU about 15%, but it rendered everything out the same day & I had it to FedEx in time for next day delivery. Until recently, the Nvidia GPUs could not render more than 2-3 instances at once & some AMD CPUs overheat quickly if you try to overclock them like you can an Intel CPU...

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Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

Luke-Power wrote on 12/7/2020, 6:01 PM

Thank you all, I have decided to go with i9 based on your feedback.