Thanks. So Vegas 4.0 is not a toy?

So Vegas 4.0 is not a toy?

No - it is NOT a toy unless you mean it's fun to play and edit with.

Ed, maybe editing isn't suposed to be fun - I wonder how many people think like that? Of course! It must be really hard and painful to be a "serious" contender . . not!!

Grazie

I’ve been using Vegas for 5 minutes. I edit with P6.0 and am having trouble with the Project Trimmer, a feature that I very much need.

While looking at Avid for a solution...
there are so many posts, in the Premiere and Canopus forums that talk up Vegas.

So, when I saw the cheery and user friendly Vegas interface, an image of the Ulead editing software came to mind, user friendly, but a crappy program. Ops, IMHO.

In a light hearted way I asked the question, but half afraid it could be true. After all, it’s Vegas Video, not Premier, FCP or Avid. There is sarcasm here.

Using P6.0, I always thought you had to "work' to edit. Yeah, it’s great fun, more than fun really, but in Premiere you have to work the program. In only 10 seconds on Vegas, I was doing a cross fades, on any track, by moving one clip over. For me, that sure beats Premiere. Even when you use the Ctrl+D keys, I always seem to forget to have the track selected. Dong! Dong!

In Premiere, I never did get the L key to fast forward on the time line, but in Vegas, the J, K, L is working perfectly. I can get used to that. It also seems that clips move around the timeline easier, with less “rules”.

I'd like to learn if I can use the I and O key to set in and out points and then short cut key back to them, (the in and out points) so I can cut up longer clips.

I still can't find the key frame control box.
- The Key Frame Controller is displayed at the bottom of Video FX. –
Sure, but I still find it. LOL

OK, I’m blabbing, it’s just that Vegas seems so user friendly, there has to be a catch.

Thanks, Jon

Also, really love the real time effects.

it’s just that Vegas seems so user friendly, there has to be a catch.

Nope - NO Catch.

Take a look at my Beginner's Corner at www.jetdv.com/tts to get up to speed on the basics.

As for keyframes, the timeline at the bottom of every effects box is where they are controlled (no extra boxes to bring up - just change settings and it will automatically add a new keyframe).

And, yes, I and O do work.

You may have to enlarge an FX window by dragging the bottom boundary if the Keyframes timeline is not visible.

If you open a large clip in the Trimmer, you can use I and O or just drag to select a Region. Now hit R and a text dialog opens so you can save that region with a name of your choosing - if you're careful the name can help you sort the saved regions in the order you want.

Clicking on the Floppy icon above the Trimmer saves the Region, and the Regions are seen in Explorer tab by enabling Region View. They can be lifted from there to the timeline any time you need them, or double click will open that region in the Trimmer. Region boundaries can be moved any time.

As already stated, there is no catch with Vegas - it gets better as you learn more.
I "left" Premiere two years ago, and Non, je ne regrette rien.

You can also set Vegas to save regions and markers automatically in preferences. While working on the timeline you might also try "colapse loop region when no time selection present (in the preferences>editing tab). I found that to be more premiere like as I find the loop regions sometimes get in the way. I change it back (uncheck) when working in the trimmer as the in and out points do not seem to work right.

Vegas still needs some work in the media management (like a need for subclips) but overall I find it so much better than Premiere and I have found that the Vegas team actually listens to us and does not take years to fix bugs.

Marc

I'm sort of lost now, but I'm ready to start learning.

It's a bit tough going, I'm having trouble with just about every feature. I was able to pick up on Premiere faster than my short term results on Vegas, but I'm gong to hit the books hard today.

This project has 40 hours of source video, cut up into as many "decent" 30 mins programs as possible, then mixing and re-matching the clips to create more programs.

I had somewhat of a system working in Premiere, but there were glaring flaws, so I'm very much ready to learn something that will work better.

Thanks for your help.
Jon