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Grazie wrote on 7/8/2002, 12:41 PM
People to put up their:

1 - Theme
2 - Story
3 - Audience
4 - Rough Storyboard

Mine:

Working Title: North Circular Road & Welsh Harp Lake and Wildlife Park

1 - Theme: Peace and Tranquility in North London Suburb
2 - Story: How people deal with the Rat Race through using "Areas of Tranquility
3 - Audience: Local Natural History Society; Local Borough; Environment Department; others
4 - Rough Storyboard: Establishing shots well known nasty traffic intersection; Cuts back and forth of traffic and sounds and close-ups of traffic and speed; clammer and clatter; shots from road bridge panning over to tranquil setting; sail boats and swans; church spire and the sound of bells ringing; filmed spoken comments of Park user/s; shots of wildlife; "strange" plants; ...... Music and maybe poetry....


Update: Already done "draft shooting" and have some really relevant shots of movement and sail boats and swans

It's a start...

Grazie

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Kalvos wrote on 7/8/2002, 1:46 PM
Good idea! Using your framework, plus 'progress', which you added nicely:

1 - Theme
2 - Story
3 - Audience
4 - Rough Storyboard
5 - Progress

Title: Vermont's Independent Country Stores

1 - Theme: How Vermont's country stores are both needed and threatened by changes, and how they respond.

2 - Story: Divided into sections after an introduction, set off by titles: Daily Events, Community, Thinking Back, Telling Stories, Changes, The Goods, Looking Ahead, credits.

3 - Audience: Local stores, customers, schools, and travelers (via web clips).

4 - Rough Storyboard: Story was created after the interviews, letting the storekeepers and customers lead. Resulting storyboard:

I. Titles over slo-mo old patron walking into store, and ten quick comments by storekeepers.
II. Overview feel of stores & daily life, including great shot of guy on tractor getting lunch, local dog.
III. 'Talking table'; comments and look at 'subrural' character, local trade, 'heart of village culture', programs with schoolkids; post offices in stores; end with comments 'we are independent'.
IV. Old store images with comments on store histories and quirky background tales about marble quarries, nail shelves, crockery, Morgan horses; telling stories by customers & storekeepers, old travel routes, tossing chickens off roof w/ old pix, bamboo story, casket factory, cutting ice in January w/ old pix.
V. Divided into three subsections: Coping with changes, abandoned rail tracks, busy road, old ways (driving phone messages to customers, grinding sage for sausage), new products including hemp, ATMs, pizza, French quimpere, in increasing fast cuts, and one who doesn't like change at all; the addition of wine sections in every store, with voiceovers that suggest each storekeeper thought it was their own idea; and expansion of local products, ice cream, maple, artwork, bread, honey, plus postcards (zoom back from stills), and wrapping up with classic store signs.
VI. Short philosophical look by storekeepers, country stores as 'darwinian', 'life gets faster', village culture again, close circle with answers to own opening questions.

Progress: Everything was shot in 3 days, driving over 1,000 miles in Vermont (which is hard to do, since it's only 263 miles long!). Nobody had cameras to rent, and the Country Store Alliance had no money to buy, so I shot on my old Sony 8mm from 1984 (gasp!). I collected six hours of material, too much of it good.

I logged all the good stuff and imported it to HD. Since I had the story in my head by then, editing took a week (after I learned the hang of VideoFactory, during which my first posts appeared here).

There was to be nothing special to the production except the arch of the story. Technically, there were only titles, dissolves, voiceovers, bunches of head shots, quite a few historical stills (the ice cutting ones were great -- chromes from 1953!), and little else. It's one of what I call 'slowtalker' documentaries because of its niche audience; I have a good eye, and previously had worked with film.

Last week I composed the score (my "real" life's work), about 18 minutes of music in total. I rendered some very nice versions in Sonar, also recorded a few connecting voiceovers, and placed it all together in VF.

Then I came up against the mad crashing problem during rendering, so instead rendered 50 separate one-minute sections, and pasted 'em together in TMPGEnc. (I finally got a complete playback now that I've installed the VIA latency patch; I think that may do the trick.)

That's it! 50 minutes of slow-talker documentary with nifty historical tidbits and nice flow. (Only wish I'd had a digital camera to do the originals.)

Dennis

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Grazie wrote on 7/8/2002, 4:39 PM
Brilliant work!

The background and content reminds of Mr Guthrie's travels through US collecting music. There is definately a theme that I'm sure others could expand on.

Stiffler wrote on 7/10/2002, 4:10 AM
Great post, Grazie! I'm looking forward to seeing your project!

I have alot of ideas, but I need to put them on paper....

Maybe I'll do a VideoFactory instructional video......

1. 'Beth' is trying and trying to capture her video with her new Dell and the VideoWave software..., but is having trouble...quick shot of the 'dark' video...Then, 'ding'...a shot of the 'blue screen of death'! .... "Crap, freeze up again??", she wonders?

2. 'Beth' can not figure out her problems and then reads a post from 'Vince' about VideoFactory...

3. Next shot of Beth posting her video on Chienworks site! Happy ending....

Well, this is not my script, but a true story! (the names have been changed).

Grazie wrote on 7/10/2002, 10:39 AM
Stiffy - do you think you'll be able to sell it anybody. OOOh yeah Michael Dell & Roxio CEO of course! I'm sure they'd love to have a copy. I think you are on to one there.

Grazie

Labatt50 wrote on 7/10/2002, 6:21 PM


Mine:

1. Theme: The Universe
(a) looking outward
(b) looking inward

2. Story: Using lots of those gorgeous Hubble shots, stills, video and audio from the net, and high-voltage music by Nightwish, I'm trying to show how much of importance is "out there" and how insignificant is most of the day-to-day stuff we deal with. While we fuss over paint chips on the Buick, whole galaxies are being swallowed up by gigantic black holes.

3. Audience: Just a few friends who received my first six-part video...my Signature Edition series. Kind of an overblown title, since both the video camera and VF were brand new...but it was fun.

4. Rough Storyboard: Since I can't do much with my camera, most of the material will come from the web...but in a nutshell, what I'm saying is Earth's but "a mote in God's eye" (not original) and we inhabitants, who are in the process of destroying the planet in a thousand different ways, are infinitely less important than the aforementioned mote. Now, if I can just overcome those annoying glitches in VF.......

(BTW, good topic, since we get a chance to see what others are doing).

Brian
Grazie wrote on 7/11/2002, 2:07 AM
Labatt50 - and more specifically I like to learn from others regarding their approach and logic behind a "story-line". I think Kalvos's approach and dynamic approach has already woken me up to the value of rapid to-and-fro cutting. Yes, I did know this, but to have an email colleague spell it out has reinforced the value of it.

Personally, I drive my partner bonkers by giving a running commentary about how a TV travel show cameraman or editor has worked, to get a stunning cut!

In some form or other - this thread is going to grow.

Grazie
Kalvos wrote on 7/24/2002, 7:39 AM
Hi Grazie and others,

That documentary video is done, and I've put versions online in 56K and 256K Real and Windows media, streaming and downloading. It's 50 minutes, so downloads are pretty huge (90MB), but the streams are pretty good.

They're here with preview stills. Then if you're still interested, you can click the link to the video page:
http://vaics.org/news-20020701.html

I had to configure my Apache server to stream Windows media It works with IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but I still can't get Opera browser to stream it. But the Real Media streams fine in all browsers.

There are still a few glitches, but at 22 hours per render, I had to stop somewhere!

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Grazie wrote on 7/28/2002, 5:03 AM
Kalvos... Brilliant!

Sorry I've taken sometime to get back to you on your Opus.

Living in the UK and have only visited US while on an Arts "Across" the pond Cultural exgchange, your film really has captured for me a small but obviously very important part of "Community USA". In England we have Village shops - mostly now under threat by hyper markets, the farming community still reeling from the "Mad Cow" disease and recently a repeat of the Foot 'n Mouth outbreak, which I remember from 1966!

I've some further "creative" feedback for you on your editing style concerning the "interviews" and how to make it more relevant and create "pace". If you wish to know - its only my opinion of course - then let's get a thread going!

Y'know, this would be a grand piece for "Tourism USA" [ just made up the nomenculare!] to get hold of. Waddya Think?!

There is a lot of opportunities in what you have done, and you have given me a few more projects to do.....

Well done - like it... like it lots! Bravo!!!!!

Oh yes, I streamed it through RM worked faultlessly. Kept the viewing screen to about 2" square.

Grazie
Kalvos wrote on 7/28/2002, 11:13 PM
Grazie wrote: In England we have Village shops - mostly now under threat by hyper markets, the farming community still reeling from the "Mad Cow" disease and recently a repeat of the Foot 'n Mouth outbreak, which I remember from 1966!

Yes indeed. I was in the UK last year, and in Ireland a few months ago. The loss of the small shops was most evident in Ireland, but the hypermarkets and chain convenience stores (don't know what you call these there) were having a frightening impact.

Grazie: I've some further "creative" feedback for you on your editing style concerning the "interviews" and how to make it more relevant and create "pace". If you wish to know - its only my opinion of course - then let's get a thread going!

Let's do it. I'm a radio person, and used to do some film, but this was my first venture into video, on virtually no budget, and three days to do all the original interviews. I'm surprised it makes sense at all!

Grazie: Y'know, this would be a grand piece for "Tourism USA" [ just made up the nomenculare!] to get hold of. Waddya Think?!

If it had better quality. It was intended to be a demo as a grant-magnet. We'll see if it has the desired result.

Grazie: I streamed it through RM worked faultlessly. Kept the viewing screen to about 2" square.

Good. It's hard to know what will work and be at all visible. Thanks for the report!

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Kalvos wrote on 8/4/2002, 10:43 AM
Anybody else have new projects on line now we can look at & talk about?

Anticipatingly,
Dennis

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Grazie wrote on 8/10/2002, 5:19 PM
Kalvos just returned from Holland. Will talk later....

Grazie
Kalvos wrote on 8/10/2002, 8:13 PM
Where in Holland? I lived there for a while, still go back often & love it.

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Grazie wrote on 8/11/2002, 2:13 AM
Amsterdam & Utrecht. Spent sometime by the seaside at Noordvecht (?). Oh while in Amsterdam went and saw the "Night Watch" - Rembrandt. Outstanding!
Kalvos wrote on 8/12/2002, 5:17 AM
Both beautiful places. I just wrote a set of violin/cello duets for a group in Utrecht ... it's a town with something we don't have anymore in the U.S. -- chestnut trees. Absolutely lovely. Have they finished restoring the downtown canals yet? When I was last there, they were removing the streets in the center of town.

I lived in Amsterdam, on Ruysdaelkade, just a 15 minute walk from the museum. A wonderful place ... I would like to return permanently at some point.

Hope you took some great video while you were there!

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Grazie wrote on 8/12/2002, 6:25 AM
Kalvos

Just had a look at the Ducth "rushes" - took 5x 45mins - don't know about "great" video, but I am getting to use the Rule of Thirds much better. Using really tight closeups of people speaking. Not too concerned about background, giving attention to person speaking -Dutch or English. Giving time for a moving item - boat, train, tram - to come into frame unexpected and using zoom to make a point rather than being "greedy"; trying to keep the potential audience's attention rolling along. I've also learnt to view my work on a daily basis, to knock home some lessons. I still have those "If Only!" moments, but I suppose with an un-scripted approach you just have to roll with it. However, learing from my mistakes and also building from successes is what it is all about. - Bet Splielberg is still learning!

1 - Theme: A week In Holland - "Always on the Move!"

2 - Story: Meeting relatives and friends; images of food and drink; travel by tram, plane, bus; The Old meeting The New - Amsterdam Masters:Dutch Architecture: Floriade and the Environment: Celebrations and Music

3 - Audience: Maybe Local Tourist Board in England for potential work? Own skills/friends/family

4 - Rough Storyboard:

Haslting/bustling airport - Schipol; baggage collection; turnstiles & movement

Celebrations at coast - birthday at restaurant

Music on the streets of Ams and Ut. - Buskers in Am and Ut Station

Busy markets - quick intercuts of people buying and people selling; making cakes [mmmhh!]

Trams and Trams! - squeeky noisy trams and people coming and going

Rijks Museum - Rembrant and Van Gough; armoury and closeups of beautiful ivory long muskets

Rembrandt's House - Rembrandt's collections of artifacts; dark and light images

Arts Projects and candle making - slow dissolves of processes; print workshop with cascades of images

Floriade - clips of 21st Century buildings and traditional buildings set against the natural background of horticulture; haunting environmental imagery; bamboo and water features

Come to think of it K, got some shots down through an Utrecht canal bridge through the spokes of a bicycle, onto a chap eating at one of those canal side restaurants. Yeah come to think of it plenty to play with here! I'm between consultancy work at present sooooo... i'll get on with the backlog of editing.

Utrecht looks to have been cleaned up. The pavements seemed to be in place and the general sense of pride and openess is evident.

Oh yes your movie - I meant to give you some feedback. I've noticed that on "professional" interviews, TV and the like, the editor/camera operator will shoot the interview say 3/4 full frame, then when the person is making "the" point, the camera goes in really tight - maybe just eyes and mouth - is slightly tilted, 20-30 degrees [can do this in pan/crop VF] and is given a black and white efx [also in VF]. This makes the issue being discussed more dramatic effect and keeps the audience's attention. And yeah, get the person being interview to talk to an imaginary person just to the right or left of camera. Only a thought!

Okey dokey - now where's that reel 3? Hmmmm... I knew i put it down there.....

Grazie
Kalvos wrote on 8/12/2002, 11:48 AM
Grazie,

Thanks for the feedback -- and for remembering anything about my video after having a trip away!

I appreciate it, and will offer my excuse for your first comment. I was shooting with my 1984 vintage Sony 8mm, and I had to do almost 100% in camera. Zooming in looks really bad coming from the analog source. As for the imaginary person -- don't I wish. I tried that with all of them, and they just forget, mostly because I also happen to be the group's Executive Director, so they keep wanting to talk to me.

The switch to b/w for emphasis is very popular here in the US right now.

Now, as to your trip & video -- I want to see it. I miss every minute away from the Netherlands!

You said, using zoom to make a point rather than being "greedy". What did you mean by that?

You said, Music on the streets of Ams and Ut. - Buskers in Am and Ut Station. Did you need to get permissions? I just learned that even the sound is owned by the city in Toronto, so no images or sound can be used commercially without buying the 'ambience' from the city!

And: making cakes [mmmhh!]. Don't remind me. Yumm.

And: Floriade. You got to go? Was it in full bloom? Wow!

You got some shots down through an Utrecht canal bridge through the spokes of a bicycle, onto a chap eating at one of those canal side restaurants. It's very nice in summer, and Utrecht is a great town. I'm jealous, and look forward to seeing those images!

Let us all know when there's something online to look at.

Best to you,
Dennis

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