Thanks Steve, will take a look at it.

Paul.

Paul, I guarantee we're not ignoring any reported issues. We really do need people who have issues to start a support ticket. We are still working on some issues and reported log files but issues we can't duplicate are very hard to diagnose.

I am not in a position to complain.
The fact is NB titler was bundled free with v11. So i am not complaining or anything. Its just, i can see clearly this is going to take a long time (if at all) because as you say, you can't duplicate the issue and no one is sending you crash logs like i did - with this specific error.
We are going in circles now...
And knowing there will be no answer to my question 'how long will this take', because without data from other users, its just not going to happen is it. You cannot reproduce my issue, that is the answer i accept. So i do not believe this will be fixed - with respect.
I understand you are trying to solve issues. And you have indeed been great in the comms department, no complaints there at all either, but now i need a working titler. So i am asking other forum members for their recommendations. So far Boris Continuum is looking very good, although its a little more money that i had hope to pay considering this is not my main income.

Paul.

Sometimes LESS is MORE when it comes to Titles.
Cheesy Titles turn a professional production into amateur hour quickly.
These are a few of the packages I use or have seen others use.
(some are cheaper as well as easier to learn than others)

Boris
After Effects
Zaxwerks
ProDad Heroglyph
BluffTitler

ProDad Heroglyph - "Sony Vegas Pro 10 / 32bit only".. thats a shame, looks good.

Paul.

Edward, is it possible to have a logged version of NBTP.

Would that make easier to report crashes?

Thanks

Rob

Rob, it does have a logging ability built in, i had to enable logging as part of the support proceedure. Then turn it back off once done. If i remember, its in the program folder for NB titler, (could be a reg entry, sorry cant remember exactly). It produces a detailed log of the crash, which you can send to them - as i did, a few times.

ok, checking titlers, i should have also added that i do not really want to go the AE route if possible. Trying (if poss) to keep this in the Vegas NLE. Its a money thing!

Paul.

Less is almost always more for me. I'd love to see the titles folk are doing that the existing titlers (other than New Blue) can't do and that does not also stink of cheese and "trying too hard" .

What works for Woody Allen and Stanley Kubrick usually works for me. It is rare that any production is appreciated any more for having good titles, but cheesy and needlessly flashy titles are a poor way to start.

For sophisticated motion graphics I would use After Effects.

A few years back I created this short title sequence just using the Vegas Standard Titler and a couple of repeat layers

I agree with the "less is more" statement. A lot of packages, such as NB, come with presets that can (and probably should) be tweaked to taste. Starting from scratch (as would be necessary with BCC) takes creativity.

I started with BluffTitler when I used Vegas 6. Man, the presets right off the BT truck are worse than cheese. They're over-the-top cheese in a can. But BT is capable of producing some amazing results if you stick with it.

For static titles, I'm now using Cinema 4D, which is probably WAY beyond the OP's budget for simple titling. Still, I made this from scratch last night in under an hour:

There's no question about the cheese factor! nooooo..

Thats not what we are looking for here.

Mostly, i just use basic black white text, its clean, eligant and does the job. My small film productions use this a lot. No need for NB.
But there are times when you do want to flashy stuff. Fast titles with a punch. Advertising is a good example i'd say.

Paul.

Please vtxrocketeer no offence - but Ulead Cool 3D could have done that logo in about 30 seconds. I don't know if it is still available but if it is you should take a look as it is a time saver for that kind of 3D look.

Update - looks like version 3.5 is available for $50 from the Ulead website. In all honesty I have tried to animate some of these logos and the effect was too cheesy for me. With atmospheric lighting I can use it as a still logo - like this

Thanks, Potter. No worries at all. I appreciate the recommendation. I was just experimenting with a new HDRI lighting setup and decided to drop in the logo to see what would happen. The stuff I had in there before the logo is definitely not the province of titlers. Chalk this one up to hitting a gnat with a baseball bat. (Also, I'm clawing my way up a vertical learning curve, which explains why it took me an hour!)

Cheers,
Steve

I have the same problem, new blue titler crashes when using vegas.