Reel Pak1 question, How to render?

cervama wrote on 12/21/2004, 8:46 AM
Question, When I choose the format to render my projet, do I render it, then do my editing on the timeline? What to I do with the track that's on the bottom? Do I delete it? Which wan is the render file the one in grey? What if I have other tracks with title, and overlays. Do I leave those?

Please help I'm dumbfounded. Thanks.

MAC

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Spot|DSE wrote on 12/21/2004, 8:51 AM
The answer to this depends on how you used the tools in Celluloid or Ultimate S. Did you generate a 24p project? Did you only convert to widescreen and add the film looks?
If you generated a 24p project, it's already set up to render, just render using the 24p setting in Vegas, and you're good to go. If you only did a wide screen, same story. Just render.
Everything that you see in your preview window will render correctly.
cervama wrote on 12/21/2004, 9:03 AM
I did a wedding and it was shot on 29.7frames. It's already to be render. I want to use the celluloid reelpak1 i bought to render in film look. What are the steps to use.

I want it to widescreen 16:9 . What's the difference of 29.7frame and 24p?


MAC
Spot|DSE wrote on 12/21/2004, 9:34 AM
To use the Widescreen, build your project. It's usually best to do the Widescreen first with the film looks applied when you widescreen it, and then place titles, etc.
Then render
cervama wrote on 12/21/2004, 9:51 AM
I have that already. I know this is not a VASST forum. Is there more where I can learn. I already email support at VASST and no response. The reelpak1 does not have enough information for this. Widescreen, 24p how does one know what presets to use in VEGAS5. There are several options with reelpak1 I just don't have enough time to play with different settings and rendering. This is a new to many of us so more information on the VASST site would be appreciated for us newbies. There would be more sales.

Thanks Spot for the information and tip.

MAC
Spot|DSE wrote on 12/21/2004, 10:42 AM
Cervama,
I've just searched all the emails to UltimateSupport@vasst.com, and there is nothing showing there.
The file that's greyed out is a muted track. That track will not render. It's not supposed to. Even if you unmute it, it likely won't render.
Please send a veg to the above address so I can see what you are doing.
cervama wrote on 12/21/2004, 11:08 AM
Spot my apologies to you. The server where I work said emailed failed. I think it has something to do with security. I work for the county of L.A. They been doing that for a while since we been getting hit with viruses.

How can I send a Veg file to you? Isn't it too big for email?

All I want to do is Do this wedding in film look. It is still a veg file. It has transitions and titles It's a .avi 29.7frames. I want it on 16:9. Will I be able to render also in 24p? Onece that's done will I be able to delete the old clips?

Thanks for all your help.

MAC

JohnnyRoy wrote on 12/21/2004, 12:16 PM
> The reelpak1 does not have enough information for this

MAC, Actually, the information was added to the Ultimate S User’s Guide since the ReelPak are just looks. I have added more information about rendering this afternoon and we’ll get a new version up on the VASST web site.

If you want your project to be 24p, you should do this as a first step before you add titles, transitions, etc. It sounds like its too late for that now since you sound like you’re done with the video.

Your best bet would be to use Apply Film Look and Convert 4:3 project to Widescreen. This option will convert your project to either NTSC or PAL DV Widescreen and apply a 16:9 crop to ALL events (video, titles, everything). You should go back and watch the whole project to make sure nothing you want got cropped out. (That’s why Spot suggested you do this first before you add titles etc.)

When you’re ready to render your project, you should use the DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream or DVD Architect PAL Widescreen video stream and render your audio separately as AC3. This will give you an output that will display properly on widescreen TVs and letterbox on 4:3 TVs.

Hope this helps,

~jr
cervama wrote on 12/21/2004, 12:32 PM
it now makes more sense. What's the best way to do the 24p render? Timeline with all clips?
JohnnyRoy wrote on 12/21/2004, 9:22 PM
> What's the best way to do the 24p render? Timeline with all clips?

Yea, the idea with 24p is to convert all your source footage to 24p BEFORE you do anything else. Just as if you had captured it from a 24p camera. So you should lay out all your source end-to-end, cuts only, and use Ultimate S (or Celluloid) Convert Video to 24p. This will change your project to NTSC DV 24p and render each clip to 24p and bring it back onto the timeline and apply a 16:9 crop. You will now have a 24p project with 24p footage to work with.

The reason it applies the crop after the render is so that you can modify the crop before to final render so that heads don’t get cut off. Now when you add you titles, Vegas will add them as 24p media because the project is 24p.

~jr