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matthew-dobrski wrote on 9/29/2016, 1:59 AM

Recently acquired iMac 5K Retina machine with Boot Camp and installed trial version of Vegas Pro 14, trying to deal with 4096x2160 24fps footage in MP4 format from Inspire 1 Pro drone. The goal is to render output file in exactly the same format and resolution, preserving the details as much as possible. Unfortunately no template consider such frame size ... How to force Vegas to render with custom 4096x2160 size and in format playable by popular Windows or OS X media players (i.e. MP4 or MOV), not exotic MXF format? 

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fr0sty wrote on 9/29/2016, 2:40 AM

I've had success using the main concept avc encoder. Click the customize template button on any of the templates for that encoder, set your pixel dimensions, and the bitrate (I'd set it at 100mbps, or the same as what came from the camera).  That should give you a .mp4 that will play on a PC/mac. Vegas really does need better 4K render templates.

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NickHope wrote on 9/29/2016, 3:09 AM

As fr0sty suggests, try this and play with the bitrates. You might not need to go all the way to 100mbps.

Also see this thread: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-14-which-format-to-use-for-4k-mp4-youtube--103668/ or a better result that uses x264 as the encoder, follow Marco's links on that thread to Vegas2Handbrake and the modifications you need to make it work in VP14.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/29/2016, 6:26 AM

The UHD/4K templates can be adjusted in some of the encoders - and one way to improve quality a little bit is to increase the data rates.

Another way is the use of Handbrake, or to render to intermediates like Cineform, Sony YUV or others and to use external encoders like TMPGenc. If somebody goes for that or uses internal encoders will be a quality decision but also easy it should be in the handling.

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matthew-dobrski wrote on 9/29/2016, 7:53 PM

Thank you all, gentleman. After few experiments with suggested settings I was able to render playable films with this incredible 4096x2160 resolution and MP4 format. Playable, but not using Windows Media Player, which caused terrible distortions and artifacts. To my surprise the same renders played within OS X El Capitan are flawlessly reproduced. Bingo!

matthew-dobrski wrote on 9/29/2016, 8:02 PM

As fr0sty suggests, try this and play with the bitrates. You might not need to go all the way to 100mbps.

Also see this thread: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-14-which-format-to-use-for-4k-mp4-youtube--103668/  For a better result that uses x264 as the encoder, follow Marco's links on that thread to Vegas2Handbrake and the modifications you need to make it work in VP14.

Yes, it works! I may experiment with some other settings as well, but in general Vegas 14 is up the task, thankfully. This is my first approach to UHD rendering and i was confused by terrible quality of renders played back with Windows Media Player. Later I discovered that the same files played from within OS X are OK. No distortions or visible degradation with above 50K bitrate renders. So far so good ...BTW, the link provided doesn't go anywhere...

NickHope wrote on 9/29/2016, 10:05 PM

Yes, it works! I may experiment with some other settings as well, but in general Vegas 14 is up the task, thankfully. This is my first approach to UHD rendering and i was confused by terrible quality of renders played back with Windows Media Player. Later I discovered that the same files played from within OS X are OK. No distortions or visible degradation with above 50K bitrate renders. So far so good ...BTW, the link provided doesn't go anywhere...

Link now fixed in previous post. Thanks.

Try VLC Media Player as an alternative to WMP. I usually have both installed.