Render error....no audio?

chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/7/2011, 10:02 AM
Good morning luminaries....

I did a couple of renders to MPG2 last night.
After I did the render I open CD Architect and drag the render to the timeline for a burn.
My first error was I unchecked 'render loop area only' thinking all files in timeline would render correctly by default....but, no audio on render.
Attempt #2....I dragged/selected the whole timeline to 'select all' for a render then checked the 'render loop area only.
No audio again?
So...as a test during my coffee consumption I'm now doing a 'Make Movie' and save to hard drive (disc image) and will drag that file to the CD Architect timeline as another trial.
I'm sure it's my neurons that aren't grasping a step here.
Thanks to all for responding for my stupidity.

Feliz Viernes all....

Comments

Steve Grisetti wrote on 10/7/2011, 11:17 AM
Unfortunately, since you've started a new topic, we've lost track of all of your background.

What kind of camcorder is your original video coming from and which settings did you use in your Vegas Movie Studio project? It could be that your original footage uses an audio codec the program can't work with.

Also, what is CD Architect? Are you talking about DVD Architect?
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/7/2011, 11:27 AM
Duh (on my part)...I meant DVD Architect.
Must be the high octane coffee I'm consuming.

I should have specified on my original post that there is no video clips.
Video timeline: only pictures I took during my music era - 150 or so.
Audio timeline: 25 original songs
Voice timeline: intro narration of 6 minutes only.
Total time: 1:35 minutes

Rendered to MPG2 - opened DVD Architect and put the render into the timeline to burn to DVD - pic/video plays but there is no audio.

Obviously, I'm missing something crucial.

Your are a great help here (along with many others) so thanks again.

Steve Grisetti wrote on 10/7/2011, 12:45 PM
It could be that you're creating MST files instead of M2T files. MSTs are video only.

The easiest way around this in Movie Studio is to select Make Movie, then Burn DVD, then DVD with Menu. If you do this, the last screen will give the option to Send to DVD Architect -- and the program will automatically load the audio and video into your DVD Architect project.

At least that's how it works in versions 10 and 11.
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/7/2011, 12:58 PM
Got it....
Hmmm.....I'll check that extension you refer to.
At this moment I'm 75% through the 'Make Movie' render.
Will follow your advice and advise.

Many thanks..
Bob Decker wrote on 10/7/2011, 1:04 PM
If you're going to drag the file(s) to the timeline, you have to do two renders. One is the MPEG-2 that you already did. The other is an AC-3 file for the soundtrack..The AC-3 will be there in your render options for your project Save these to the same folder (you can make a seperate folder just for this if you prefer).

When you then drag the MPEG-2 into DVD Architect, it will automatically load your soundtarck-you don't have to touch the AC-3 file again.

Bob
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/7/2011, 1:16 PM
Bob....

Well....maybe that is my error (ignorance).
I don't remember seeing the AC3 lingo but that is likely my oversight.
I'm at 85% for my currently running render so I'll scrutinize things further if I've screwed this render up somehow....will advise.

I thank you for educating me...
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/7/2011, 3:02 PM
I think I'm making some progress.
I rendered a shorter test file as MPG2 - default template - which notes the audio is present.
DVD Architect does pick up the audio and video in the time line and plays correctly.
Click 'Prepare' all goes well.
Click 'Burn' and I get this message:

Please insert chapter marker in title "Music Anthology 105011 rev 2 edit" between "00:02:31.151" and "00:05:29.629".?

I see nothing suspect in the original movie file when zooming in to the aforementioned time frame.

Lastly...is memory a large factor in render times?
They've been over three hours for my current project.
I have 4 gig on my laptop and only 1.5 on this machine.

Thank you...



Chienworks wrote on 10/7/2011, 3:06 PM
Actually you should use the DVD-Architect template, which does not include sound. Then do a second render to AC3 format to get the sound. Make sure you give the two rendered files exactly the same name except for the .mpg & .ac3 extensions.

Why?

Because the default template results in very lousy image quality and a .mp3 sound track. The DVD-Architect template creates much better image quality and .ac3 is better quality than .mp3. Also, it used to be that a lot of older DVD players would only handle .ac3 or uncompressed audio, however lots of newer ones don't have this restriction anymore and might possibly play .mp3.
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/7/2011, 3:18 PM
Chienworks.....

I can't thank you and everyone else enough for walking me through this learning curve.

Will do....I'm firing up the laptop to do a render now.

Will advise....unless everyone is totally burnt (pun?) on my queries.

Thank you...
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/7/2011, 8:26 PM
Whew....where's my tequila.....OK...

I did as you suggested.
I add the movie file (DVD Architect Template) and the .ac3 file into DVD timeline.
As you state....I dragged the movie file and the .ac3 followed.
I click 'Make DVD' and I get the following "messages":

1) Estimated total size of all menus is greater than the maximum 1Gig
(total size 6.102 gig per estimate at bottom of dialogue box)

2) Estimated size of project is larger than default space available on media

Project: 01:35
Video: all pictures
Audio: all are just 120kbs MP3 to save space.
Using DL DVD

Any comments are welcome....I'm thirsty.
Thanks...
musicvid10 wrote on 10/7/2011, 8:45 PM
Dragging your media onto the MENU timeline is not the right thing to do.
You do not want your media in the menu. You want it under the menu (it's called a hierarchy).
Add it to the MEDIA timeline instead, by means of the Explorer tree to the left.
Then all will be well.
;?)
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/8/2011, 10:28 AM
SUCCESS!
I think I've found the error of may ways.
Don't know how I missed it in the manual.

I was confused at first with your explanation (terminology) but late last night I finally got it.
I clicked on the file in the 'tree' and it came up in the preview pane or 'media timeline' as you note.
I burned a DVD last night, watched most of it and today I'm editing.

Many thanks to all who've walked me through the learning curve.
But....I reserve the right to come back here for more detailed knowledge as I'm sure there are hurdles still hidden from me.
I will be lurking here...

EDIT: is there a loss of picture quality if one is 'stretching' a picture over a long length of time...say 20-30 seconds or so?
Maybe better resolution to use several 5 second clips in this case?

Happy Saturday everyone...
musicvid10 wrote on 10/8/2011, 11:03 AM
By "picture" do you mean a still?
The answer is no -- each frame contains the same number of pixels whether there are 30 or 3,000 frames.
chulaivet1966 wrote on 10/8/2011, 11:35 AM
Mornin' musicvid....

Yes...I was referring to 'stills'.
I got to thinking that if one stretches a 'still' (from it's default of 5 seconds) for 20-30 seconds maybe it's resolution would diminish at some point and would be noticeable on the finished product DVD.

Thanks for clearing up that one amigo....I'll keep checking in here today during my editing marathon...ha.