Render issues with Vegas 6

LongTallTexan wrote on 4/26/2005, 6:40 PM
Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem. I have an hour project ( multi-cam ) I have mostly done with Vegas 5 and just upgraded. After doing another round of edits and color tweaks I render out as an AVI, I watch it render almost entirely and then Vegas crashes and the resulting file is exactly 4 min. 42 sec. I have tried it twice now and the same result. Plenty of room on the hard drive, defraged and even uninstalled a few uneccesary programs and still the same. On a maby related note I also noticed that 3/4 ways into the edit my solo function stoped working in my preview screen. maby unrelated but thought I would throw it out there. All original footage is Mini DV from VX2100's any help would be appreciated.

L.T.

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Spot|DSE wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:03 PM
Coupla questions....
1. Hard drive format?
2. what is at 4:42 on the timeline? Any stills? Third party filters like Wax, Zenote, Pixelan, or other filter?
Can you do a pre-render in the 4:42 area, or render that segment to a new track?
LongTallTexan wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:20 PM
1. Both drives in NTFS.
2.nothing special. I have renderd these same files in Vegas 5 with no issues.
3. weird issue is I see it render through the 4:42 mark and still for some reason that is where the finished video ends.

I am trying to render to Mpg 2 now
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:26 PM
Are you rendering to a selected area, or rendering the project with no selected area?
Can you render that area to a new track, and try another render of the whole project?
LongTallTexan wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:32 PM
well I am selecting the entire and rendering to another location on hard drive. tried to two seperate hard drives and the same result. Haven't tried the render to a track yet but seems like it would take up to much room. I have about 70 gig on one and 50 on the other both 7200 rpm. It just happend again in the middle of a mpg 2 render. this time I saw it happen. Vegas was in mid render and the entire program just disapered. just sent me to a fresh desktop without the program even running.

Spot|DSE wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:35 PM
So, you're rendering to MPEG...
Next direction is to look at heat. MPEG is VERY proc intensive, so it may well be that heat is responsible. Can you look at your CPU cycles? Could it be that a CPU or system fan is kicking on and stealing a shared resource?
LongTallTexan wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:40 PM
no I tried it as an avi twice and had the same results. I just tried a third time as a mpg2 and it stoped at 10:00. not a heat issue. totaly isolated to Vegas 6. I have been working on this 1 hour piece for about a month now in Vegas 5. rendered every which way but upside down and no issues. the first three renders with Vegas 6 all crash. I uninstalled Vegas 5 to get a clean install. kinda weird hugh
Cheesehole wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:46 PM
If it was a heat issue Windows would crash along with Vegas.
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:50 PM
Mine doesn't, which is why I ask the question. Heat can disable/kill a render, but Windows keeps chugging along. I've not had this for a long while...but it happened regularly in V4 for me until I put in a new cooling unit.
Long Tall....I'm out of ideas. Other than DV, what are the other file formats in the project? Titles? Third party plugs? I can't see your system specs, anything there that's unusual?
LongTallTexan wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:54 PM
I shot the entire project in DV. gotta be an issue with the new install. I did some color curves on random peices. I set the project up with the master track as my live event switch and have been sincing up iso cams to cut in and out of, one at a time and then re-rendering. I am probably through my 6 render of the complete project. the first one in Vegas 6. I imported the project into my Vegas 6 system to finish this with 6 insted of five. now I am worried that the edits I made today won't transfer back to any of my Vegas 5 systems. hope I can iron this out.
LongTallTexan wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:58 PM
well im gonna sleep on it. hope some peeps leave some good feedback or maby a Sony rep. thatnks for the input Ill check it out again tomorow and post back on this same thread.


L.T.
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/26/2005, 7:59 PM
Hopefully you have Vegas 5 versions of the files still? Otherwise, you'll be in trouble. Vegas 5 won't open Vegas 6-saved versions of files. You can only go forwards, never back.

What are your system specs? It might help chase things down.
TimmyD wrote on 4/26/2005, 9:00 PM
Here's a tip for you:
Save your Vegas 6 project as an EDL (Vegas EDL) . You can import this into Vegas 5 or even 4. It's the best way to get projects back to older versions. Effects can be saved as filter packages that are seen in older versions as well (usually).

td
danceboysteve wrote on 4/26/2005, 11:16 PM
I have been experiencing the exact same problems (and posting on here for several days). No matter what I do, or what format I render to, the system hangs.....usually in the same general area. I checked it again on V5, and it works fine. I have lots of horsepower in my workstation, and have tried tweaking everything I can think of. I was going to reinstall windows (XP Pro), but someone else having render problems tried that and it didn't help.
Chienworks wrote on 4/27/2005, 4:17 AM
Hmmmm. I recall a huge amount of posts about the "4:42 problem" in the past. I did a search and had some illuminating reading. Unfortunately it all seems to related to AVI. Since your problem appears on rendering to MPEG i'm not sure if it's related. But, it might not be a bad idea to check some of the discussions. Just click on "Search" between "Forums" and "Forum Settings", type in 4:42 and see what comes up. This seemed to be one of the better discussions:

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=97747
LongTallTexan wrote on 4/27/2005, 1:13 PM
well unfortunatly this is not the issue. I don't understand why everything was kosher with my project until I loaded Vegas 6 and now it only renders for 4: and some change.
wethree wrote on 4/27/2005, 9:44 PM
I've had the same problem for a few days now-- a two min chromakey project with lots of compositing-- render CRASH, exception error, render dialog stays open and render clock keeps ticking on.

I just finally solved my problem after scouring the posts-- But know I'm running a Shuttle, w 3Ghz P4, HT, XPPro, ATI9700Pro. I disable HT in my bios and the problem went away-- one project delivered and rendered on V6....

NEXT!

bestx3,

bt
Harold Brown wrote on 4/28/2005, 6:56 PM
I have 3Ghz P4, HT, XPPro running on Intel board with 2gig memory. I am running a render right now of a scene that is 16:33:12. It contains titles, music, color correction and transitions. HT is on. Render has been runing for 10 minutes. Approx time left 21 minutes.
I dropped this veg into the main project and the nested render was fast and work perfect.

ELAPSED TIME 42:27.
There is also a long scene that has a flipped image and zoom/pan. Both CPU/HT showed 100% for a good deal of the render.