Vegas can now playback 4K HEVC at up to 510fps, the limit is not Vegas, it's a limit of current GPU decoders, no 'narrow pipes' anymore, but this 'larger pipeline' doesn't currently extend all the way to and via the encoder, it loses a lot of steam, but this was always said to be a multipart project.

I assume that the same engineers who developed the Infusion engine, now are participating in the development of the new video engine in Vegas.

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@Gid thanks for posting that! Does that mean you won't be using MMS any more? 😉

@Reyfox I only open it now to test things mentioned on the Magix forum or to help other people, The upgrade this yr to 2025 only cost £29 but I very much doubt I'll be upgrading again. I won't list the reasons why VP is also so much better in many other ways.

Vegas can now playback 4K HEVC at up to 510fps,

@UltraVista I noticed the difference in VP21, for a long time I used AVC (as many others did), I bought a GoPro11 a couple of yrs ago that only creates HEVC files, so with the VP improvements I swapped my phone over to HEVC also to keep both formats the same. I can play, edit etc. them perfectly.. 👍

@Gid, the entry price of MMS is great for those that just want to edit and don't need the complexity of Vegas Pro. Again, the price is right with what they offer. I always recommend it to someone who wants to do more with their videos than what they can do on the cellphone app.

I'll have to try HEVC and see how it goes on my computer since you say things are working good!

@Reyfox I bought my mate MMS as he's a complete newby to video editing & wanted to start making some simple YT vids. I think it was good for me when I started as the masking is solely done with B/W masks/images & despite the track order being upside down you can visually see what is happening,

Yes, VP 21 after build 300 is when the first major update of the new video engine was installed, and they still have more stuff being cooked up behind the scenes, so it only gets better from here!

I also found a very welcome playback improvement on a test sample (50 fps hevc) that on earlier version only played at 2 or less fps. Seriously great.

However, the zig zag (renders a bit, stops, renders a bit again etc) render is still there with Nvidia GPU render. The CPU, AMD, QSV rendering doesn't show this issue.

I'm wondering is this something that will also be improved in any future "engine" work ?

However, the zig zag (renders a bit, stops, renders a bit again etc) render is still there with Nvidia GPU render. The CPU, AMD, QSV rendering doesn't show this issue.

I'm wondering is this something that will also be improved in any future "engine" work ?

 

Try Voukoder for Vegas to render, it will render much faster (no pausing) and with better quality using your NVIDIA. I just did again a compare test Magix 2160p50 render against Voukoder with same settings, I got an average of 42fps for Magix and 60fps with Voukoder.

@3POINT Agreed. I'm just curious if it will be fixed natively.

@3POINT Agreed. I'm just curious if it will be fixed natively.

I'm afraid...I mentioned this already several times, and this Magix rendering issue with NVIDIA lasts already several Vegasversions. Mostly annoying is the fact that this pausing becomes visible as pulsing artifacts in the finished render.

Ouch. I wasn't aware at all of that. Although I have Voukoder installed for VP21 I haven't got around to using/setting up for VP22, and so I mainly use nvenc as it's ~ as good as MC and lots faster.

Ouch. I wasn't aware at all of that. Although I have Voukoder installed for VP21 I haven't got around to using/setting up for VP22, and so I mainly use nvenc as it's ~ as good as MC and lots faster.

You have to download the new Voukoder connector for VP22, to get Voukoder installed in VP22.

@3POINT Thanks for that and screenshot. I hadn't realised that it was already available.

@3POINT Any thoughts on this ?

Connector for VP22 became available just 2-3 days after the release of VP22.

@3POINT Any thoughts on this ?

I don't use Norton, I use Windows defender and have no warnings and also no problems...!

@3POINT I now went directly to the site, different link, am installing now. Norton/Symantec still gives warning on "Connector" but u can simply elect to keep, thanks.

@johnny-s Enjoy Voukoder for VP22.

@3POINT Just did a test render with an Nvenc encode and created a slight mod on one of the default templates.

Just lovely to see no stop start. Thanks,

Changed 4 B frames to 2, CQ to 18, Gop to 50, (PAL land). Changed audio to 192k.

I.'m wondering is this something that will also be improved in any future "engine" work ?

 

I'm sure it will be. The input side of the pipeline has been improved and now seems like improvements to timeline processing. I'd assume output is to come.

@3POINT Just did a test render with an Nvenc encode and created a slight mod on one of the default templates.

Just lovely to see no stop start. Thanks,

Changed 4 B frames to 2, CQ to 18, Gop to 50, (PAL land). Changed audio to 192k.

 

@johnny-s These are Nvidia recommend 'starting point' settings, the * next to B frames is a recommendation to use B frames with natural video and low motion games, so with that you can draw your own conclusions as to when B frames should not be used. GoPro as an example does not use B frames and those cameras are often used for fast motion, but that's not necessarily the reason.