Render to 1440 or 1920 frame size?

rraud wrote on 12/22/2025, 11:26 AM

I have project destined for YouTube. The source files are 1440x1080 (25fps). Is it best to render at the source file's frame size, 1440x1080 @ 1.333, or.. 1920x1080 @ 1.000.) I will probably use the Magix AVC or HVEC codec. Magix AV1 renders the video to 1920 okay but the picture is vertically elongated when rendered to 1440x1080  (@ 1.333 or 1.000).
Thanks.. my area of expertise is audio.

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john_dennis wrote on 12/22/2025, 11:33 AM

@rraud It's best to get the PAR conversion out of the way in Vegas such that you upload square pixels to youtube.

Gid wrote on 12/22/2025, 11:45 AM

@rraud I agree, upload with what YT recommends.

AI Overview

YouTube recommends a 

pixel aspect ratio (PAR) of 1.000 (square pixels) for the best results. The 1.3333 pixel aspect ratio (which corresponds to a 4:3 display aspect ratio) is an older format from the days of analog video and non-widescreen TVs. 

Here is a breakdown of YouTube's recommendations for modern content:

Pixel Aspect Ratio (PAR): Always use 1.000 (square pixels). This ensures your video is not stretched or distorted on modern screens.

Display Aspect Ratio (DAR): The recommended aspect ratio is 16:9 (widescreen).

For this ratio, you should use resolutions like 1920x1080 (1080p Full HD), 1280x720 (720p HD), or higher resolutions like 4K (3840x2160).

YouTube Shorts: For vertical videos and Shorts, the recommended aspect ratio is 9:16 (e.g., 1080x1920 resolution). 

Using a 1.3333 PAR with modern codecs or platforms can lead to black bars or unwanted scaling because it's not the native format for current devices and the YouTube player. For best performance and viewer experience, stick to the modern, square pixel standards. More information is available on the official YouTube Help pages. 

 

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 12/22/2025, 11:56 AM

@rraud Best you simply encode to Youtube specifications.... Which is 1920x1080 (Full HD).

3POINT wrote on 12/22/2025, 12:44 PM

I have project destined for YouTube. The source files are 1440x1080 (25fps). Is it best to render at the source file's frame size, 1440x1080 @ 1.333, or.. 1920x1080 @ 1.000.) I will probably use the Magix AVC or HVEC codec. Magix AV1 renders the video to 1920 okay but the picture is vertically elongated when rendered to 1440x1080  (@ 1.333 or 1.000).
Thanks.. my area of expertise is audio.

Sounds like HDV source files which are actually 1440x1080i50 with a PAR of 1.333 to achieve a 16:9 AR. Besides that YT expects a PAR of 1.0 as already mentioned, YT also expects progressive fields. So deinterlacing of the 1440x1080i50 source is strongly recommended. To preserve the cadans of i50 I would deinterlace to p50 instead of p25. To get best results for YT render your project to 1920x1080p50.

rraud wrote on 12/22/2025, 1:33 PM

Thanks, The source files are16:9 wide screen.
A test render at 1440x1080 (1.3333 pixel aspect ratio) looks good as does a 1920x1080 (1.0000) rendered version. FYI, the multi-track audio (40+ tracks) were recorded to a separate audio recorder. The camera(s) audio was only used to augment the room mic tracks for applause and such. It was a funk-jazz concert with ten top-notch players. Two of the five horn players were formally with James Brown.

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Commercial name      : HDV 1080i
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Duration                    : 48 min 36 s
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Color primaries             : BT.709
Transfer characteristics    : BT.709
Matrix coefficients         : BT.709

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3POINT wrote on 12/22/2025, 1:41 PM

@rraud as expected the original media is HDV and interlaced. See me recommendations in my previous post.