Rendering and afterwards

francois7 wrote on 8/24/2003, 12:47 PM
Hello everyone

I am in the process of transferring my very old (40+ years!!), 8mm cine-film onto (hopefully?), DVD. One doesn't realise how appalling some of the old pictures are, and I thought they were OK at the time.

In order to correct many of the printing faults I am capturing at 10second intervals, a bit of a bore because I do not thnk that Vegas, by itself will just continue to collect at 10 sec. intervals. I must therfore start and stop many, many times.

For example one of the takes is completely blue, but, with the excellent Video-FX features I am able to recover the original colour. PFM (Pure F------ Magic!) really! Now my question please.

As I correct various 10sec scenes and shovel 'em onto the time-line will the correction only apply to each corrected item? Or, will Vegas insist it apply ALL corrections along the whole time-line? Or must I render each one seperately and bring them in as individual units?

regards

Francois

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kameronj wrote on 8/24/2003, 2:10 PM
Good question. Someone correct me if I'm wrong - but,

As long as you put the additional scenes on the same timeline with the previously corrected video - the resulting video will pick up the same attributes. Then, say, you have to make other adjustments on the time line - well, the keypoints will kickin and change it from that point further for any resulting video that you pop in.

Granted...although it is old footage, I don't quite understand the 10 minute part...but if it were me (and I am only speaking from my POV), I would put each vid on it's own time line and modify it there. I'd put a second or two gap between clips..

Once the whold of capturing/modifying is done - I'm rendering that bad boy to one of the best settings I could (print back off to DV tape if you have the means).....

Then, bring back into VV as one file - and chop that bad boy up - re-edit it, put in some new music...blah blah blah...then when that is done I'd have (for historical purposes):

1. The original 40 + year old footage
2. The lot of 10 second clips (un modified)
3. The Vegas VEG file with the clips modified
4. The one clip (newly redigitized)
5. The resulting newly "remastered" file.

Then if room allowed, I would save all of everything on one CD or DVD....and put it off someplace safe...then take the newly remastered file, copy it - give to folks - compress it to show over the net...what ever.

But that's me.

Hope this helps.
DataMeister wrote on 8/24/2003, 2:21 PM
If you look at the way Vegas is set up, as far as video clips are concerned, you can put a filter in four different places.

1. On the clip itself.
2. On the timeline.
3. Or on the whole project. (via the preview window)

4. And in the media pool to apply a filter to every occurance of that clip through out the project.

Are you aware of these locations?

You can find more information about these in the help file index under "Video, Adding FX"

JBJones
kameronj wrote on 8/24/2003, 2:34 PM
Ya learn something new every day. I didn't realize you could apply a filter to a clip in the media pool! Wicked!!

But then again, I haven't had a need (yet) to use a clip in more than one production. The closest I come to this is using the same video/audio when authoring a DVD (it's kinda my latest version of my opening production credit).

It's kinda wicked. I found a website recentlyl that had a bunch of public domain video from like the 50's (you know like "Burt The Turtle"...what you are suppose to do if the Russians drop the atomic bomb!! Duck and Cover damnit!!). Anyway - there is this one where this chick is in high school and just starts her period. So her mother is like all proud of her and this whole thing is about Molly growing up getting her period.

Now I'm sure this type of video was alright for circa 1950...but after that opening scene in King's "Carrie" - that's about as close to a high school menstral cycle that I need to be!!!

Did you know that in the 50's you couldn't go swimming if you had your period? Wicked!!

Anyway - there is this one part of this video (right at the start) where Molly is talking to these two old ladies on the street before she is heading out to school. One of the old ladies was dressed in one of those Mrs. Cunningham frocks to wear while you are in the kitchen cookin dinnr for your husband at 3 in the afternoon.

Oh yeah...and she was carrying a broom.

The other old chick had a bag full of groceries.

Now...I ask you - who the hell is up sweeping outside that early in the morning to stop and talk to Molly about her period? Why the hell was the chick sweeping outside? And the other chick? What grocery store was open that earlier in the morning?

And, regardless of it's hours of operation - why the hell did she find it necessary to go shopping that early? I tell you why - her husband had gotten up and had a nice breakfast and she saw him out the door to go to work - and she got dressed and went down to the market (probably Sam's dad's butcher shop) and was having an affair with Mr. Krimplerstoken (the manager of the local deli).

Yeah...he sure knew how to work his meat!!

Anyway - she had to get their that early before the store really opened because that was the only time she had to get pork (literally and figuratively). And now that she was done, she was on her way home thinking "Oh great...there's that little Chatty Cathy. She's gonna wanna talk about her period again!! Damn!! I just wanna take a shower and start dinner!!"

Well...that's the scene that I use to start my DVDs.

Thanks for the info!!
BillyBoy wrote on 8/24/2003, 3:28 PM
If you're thinking about going the fancy route try this:

Get some of those fancy fonts, then use the Satish 3D plug in to draw what you want on the screen one letter at a time, and maybe play around with expanding the size as it goes or after.

You don't enter the text one word at a time, just use the text generator as usual, then pop in the 3D filter and set it with key frames to show one letter at a time by changing one control (forget the name)...
kameronj wrote on 8/24/2003, 3:40 PM
Billy, did you mean to put this in the other thread about fonts?
francois7 wrote on 8/25/2003, 10:52 AM
Thank you to those of you who replied.

I must say that some answers were somewhat obtuse. I do have some 20hrs of old 8mm film to process? You can well imagine the workload involved if I capture at 10 second intervals.

The reason for the 10 seconds capture is that it will consequently be easier to mess around with the colours, brightness, focus etc.

Thank you again. I will probably render each small section as a .avi file and put them together, when and if, the project ever reaches completion.

regards

francois7