Rendering DVD

LC514 wrote on 3/3/2005, 2:05 PM

Howdy Gentlemen:
I'm new ... purchased a canon xl2, sony vegas 4.0, and having problems when I burn things I've edited to dvd. I shot in 16.9, using 24fps in 2:3 3:2 format, everything looks okay on vegas while editing and after the long render and play back on my sony dvd player images are jerky, cars moving by ... seem to streak. What am I doing wrong? Help! LOL ... I've rendered and burned several times with the same results.

appreciate any help and can use help understanding the canon xl2

Comments

ScottW wrote on 3/3/2005, 2:53 PM

Are you using Vegas Movie Studio 4.0 with DVD Architect Studio, or are you using the big brother: Vegas?

LC514 wrote on 3/3/2005, 4:30 PM

I'm using Vegas movie studio 4.0 + DVD architect studio ... don't know if it's the little or big brother.

jetdv wrote on 3/3/2005, 6:44 PM

don't know if it's the little or big brother

Products with the word "studio" in their name are the little brothers.

LC514 wrote on 3/3/2005, 6:56 PM

Should I update to 5.0 ... and make sure it's not the studio version?
Does the little brother have less?

ScottW wrote on 3/3/2005, 9:31 PM

Big brother for both products has a lot more features - however, it's hard to say whether you should upgrade without understanding a little more about your problem.

When you created your DVD, did you do the "Make DVD" deal from VMS? It's my understanding that VMS doesn't allow any choices for encoding bitrates and such, and so you sometimes end up with pretty poor quality stuff.

You might want to post this in the VMS forum - the folks there have a lot more experience with VMS and DVDAS and can probably provide additional suggestions.

LC514 wrote on 3/4/2005, 5:48 AM

Thank you Scott ! I'll look for that formu. I think today I'll order the new sony 5.0 + DVD suite. Since I went out on a limb and purchased the new Canon XL2 I should get the latest of editing software and try to remove these little problems for the future. I was looking at B and H catelog and it's 679. plus shipping. Does anyone know a company that sells for less?

You guys are great! You have answers about areas where the manual falls short.

LC

LC514 wrote on 3/4/2005, 8:11 AM

Yes, I used the Make Movie feature, and don't recall seeing any options regarding bitrates. Which is best when it comes to bitrates ... higher numbers or lower numbers?

chayman wrote on 3/8/2005, 2:42 PM

You have to be careful that you are not rerendering a render. You say you shot in 16:9 using 24fps in 2:3 3:2. But how did you render your file? If you render your project in 24p widescreen, you may be doubling your effect, which would certainly cause a streaking effect.

Be careful when you choose your original settings, and then your rendering settings.

BillyBoy wrote on 3/9/2005, 8:35 PM

With regard to bitrates, higher is better. That said, many make the mistake of setting the bitrate TOO high, which can cause some DVD players to choke or refusing to play the DVD at all. I don't have "studio", so I don't know what options it offers, but the default bitrate settings for DVDA work fine and rarely should be changed and then only if you know a reason why and what you accomplish by changing them. End of story, unless you think you know more than the software engineers that set the defaults to what they are for a reason. They work. If you think you know better, step forward and tell us why.

johnmeyer wrote on 3/9/2005, 8:58 PM

Yes, I used the Make Movie feature, and don't recall seeing any options regarding bitrates ...

If you didn't change the bitrates from the default, then I doubt that jerkiness and smearing is caused by bitrate. If your bitrate was extremely high, you might get this on some players, but if you didn't change from the default, then this isn't your problem.

Most likely you are having an issue with the 24p and how it is rendered. I don't do 24p work myself, but I deal with film scanned in with a Workprinter, and am familiar with how to get progressive motion pictures, shot at something lower than 29.97 fps, onto a DVD. You want to make sure that you tell Movie Studio that your input is 24p (which it hopefully will figure out) and that you want to create a project at 24 fps, with the pulldown flag set (although that product probably doesn't use such a technical term).