Rendering of films to dts or dolby digital

Marcin-Gidziski wrote on 10/16/2024, 9:18 AM

I have video editing software VEGAS Pro 22 Suite. As a beginner (for private use) I make videos of my holidays and various family trips. Currently the project renders as XAVC S Long 3840 x 2160 - 50p, but inserting a DTS audio file as background music into the axis, the program renders it to regular stereo. And in the selected option before rendering in the settings, there is only the stereo option. Please give me a hint, how to get a final holiday movie with a 5.1 or other variation, having a dts or atmos audio file as background audio for my ski/ holiday movie

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mark-y wrote on 10/16/2024, 9:28 AM

The last version of Vegas Pro to support licensed Dolby Digital AC3 was the pre-acquisition release of Sony Vegas Pro 13 in 2014.

An open-source Dolby digital decoder was included in later Magix versions.

Dolby DTS has never been licensed for use in Vegas Pro.

DMT3 wrote on 10/16/2024, 12:07 PM

You will need to find another audio app that supports either of those formats. Vegas dropped support of Dolby AC3 and as Mark-y said, never supported DTS.

Dave-Wallin-Eddy wrote on 10/16/2024, 7:54 PM

https://fiedler-audio.com/dolby-atmos-composer/ interfaces with any daw so should work with Vegas.

Former user wrote on 10/16/2024, 8:51 PM

You will need to find another audio app that supports either of those formats. Vegas dropped support of Dolby AC3


@DMT3 This is AC3 5.1, Mark-y did not say Vegas dropped support.

 

DMT3 wrote on 10/16/2024, 9:25 PM

@Former user . Vegas versions after 13 do not include or support DOLBY AC3. There is a version of Magix AC3.

Former user wrote on 10/16/2024, 9:42 PM

I recall there were threads here that linked to .rar's containing files that could be extracted to a Vegas path that allowed AC3 5.1 encoding in earlier Magix versions. I never tried it, but using voukoder is simpler and not infringing on Dolby licensing.

NoKi wrote on 10/17/2024, 7:56 AM

https://fiedler-audio.com/dolby-atmos-composer/ interfaces with any daw so should work with Vegas.

Great product, but it will only render to a lossless BWF based Dolby Atmos Master File.

To get an encoded EAC3+JOC (or TrueHD+JOC) for delivery, you still need the Dolby Atmos Renderer or use the AWS Cloud services (EAC3+JOC only).

For a ready-to-deliver Dolby AC3, EAC3 or TrueHD audio track from Vegas, Voukoder seems to be the easiest solution to me too.

Nils

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 10/17/2024, 8:14 AM

@Marcin-Gidziski, Using Voukoder is currently the easiest solution you can get at this point.

john_dennis wrote on 10/17/2024, 9:27 AM

@Steve_Rhoden

I have zero interest in such audio, but I'm four days from the end of my Vegas 22 trial and I've tried other things...

General
Complete name                            : D:\Render\DD.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/dby1/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 2.12 MiB
Duration                                 : 3 s 854 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 4 610 kb/s
Frame rate                               : 59.940 FPS
Writing application                      : Voukoder (VEGAS)

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=30
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 3 s 854 ms
Bit rate                                 : 3 965 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.072
Stream size                              : 1.82 MiB (86%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 164
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 
/ psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 
/ cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=22 
/ lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 
/ constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=30 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 
/ intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=30 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 
/ qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID                                 : ec-3
Duration                                 : 3 s 835 ms
Source duration                          : 3 s 840 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 300 KiB (14%)
Source stream size                       : 300 KiB (14%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
Dialog Normalization                     : -31 dB
dialnorm_Average                         : -31 dB
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -31 dB
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -31 dB

Now, to see if it plays on any device that I have.

Weekend Update

The quick test file that I rendered from Vegas 22 via Voukoder played from the USB port on my now ancient Sony Blu-ray player. I'll not test every flavor of Dolby audio because of waning interest. If I was playing from a USB device, I'd probably use PCM stereo or multi-channel PCM. Looking at the response curve of my hearing, it's all just theoretical.

mark-y wrote on 10/17/2024, 11:07 AM

Dolby certainly has a high opinion of itself. The cinema audio encoders and DolbyVision dynamic color are great, but not essential for consumer editors, and the marraige with iPhone to attract consumers to their expensive addiction is mostly a money grab, close to $400 Billion by the end of 2024.