Rendering woahs

IanJames wrote on 7/23/2005, 8:42 PM
So I embarked on my epic short film in HDV. Bought Vegas 5 months ago in preparation for it (upgrade from screenblast) and began using it in earnest three weeks ago. All was going swimmingly until I got DEVICE IN USE ERRORS every 5 minutes, freezeups, black thumbnails in the time line and spent nearly a week on the phone with Sony techs (who gave a valient effort). The biggest problem was rendering - or the lack of it. Couldn't render MPG2 (it would start okay, then 10 or 11 minutes in, we'd lose the video altogether - UNTIL an event showed up on another video track!) audio was fine. AVI's didn't much better. It seemed that these black thumbnails were at the root of things... fast forward a bit.

I have tried all the things they suggested and more (sending my PC out to the "hospital" for a bios upgrade, full system and memory check etc etc.)

It then occured to me to try VEGAS 6. Well I must say it was an improvement. The black thumbs were gone, the audio DEVICE IN USE error still popped up once or twice, but the good news is I could actually render an AVI! Hooray.

Of course there's bad news. MPG2 attempts get a minute in and crash the whole system.

Sound familiar? Help? Anyone?

(I promise other posts will be shorter....)

Comments

IanJames wrote on 7/23/2005, 8:45 PM
oops - should've typed WOES in subject line....
Grazie wrote on 7/23/2005, 11:22 PM
You can still edit the subject line - like wot I just did! - G
epirb wrote on 7/24/2005, 6:02 AM
just out of curiousity hwat mpeg format are you trying to go to , Mpeg for DVD or M2t to print back to tape?
TeeJay wrote on 7/24/2005, 6:53 AM
I had some trouble a few weeks ago with similar results.

I have a 200gig secondary drive that was getting full, so I started a new project and began with capturing, storing and rendering my new project to an external FireWire HDD. It took me some time (and some posts here) to discover that it was some issue with rendering via FireWire.

So, I backed up my secondary drive, cleaned it up and transferred the whole project to it and I have not had a problem since. So all my files are read, and rendered to my secondary (slave) HDD.

IanJames wrote on 7/24/2005, 3:05 PM
"Still crashing after all these years... " (Paul Symon, early digital video editor circa 1975)

#1 I have four hard-drives. System is on one, one is full of odds and ends, the other devoted to video, and another is external USB2.
I'm rendering info from the dedicated video drive to the "odds and ends" drive (which formerly was my dedicated video drive)

#2 there is only one choice in the MainConcept Mpeg2 isn't there? It's the template for HDV... no?

#3 I've been forced to render in AVI widescreen just to have a look at the project on a real TV moniter... forgive this newbie question, but is there such a thing as a "rough" render to quickly export the project from the timeline to my tape for viewing outside of my PC system?

help?
IanJames wrote on 7/24/2005, 8:34 PM
More info! I see that my CRASH starts precisely at a jpeg image (medium resolution)... When I take it out (not just mute it) the project will render and continue okay. It's baking right now so I'm unsure as to whether the rest of the project will render out without problems...
Anyone encountered this ?
epirb wrote on 7/25/2005, 4:01 AM
there have ben some issues with using stills and cuasing some crashes, if you do a search you will no doubt find some posts on the subject.
Can you try converting those stills to png and doing a render up to the crash point where the still is at?
IanJames wrote on 8/1/2005, 2:56 PM
I have discovered the issue! It was a series of AVI's shot on a consumer Sony DV cam, captured in Screenblast, and fiddled with in Vegas5 (by fiddled I mean video efx, color correction etc).
The project I was working on was almost entirely HDV, but when these little segments came up, the MainConcept render would shut down.
The solution was render that segment to a new HDV avi spec and reinsert it into the timeline.

So far no trouble. (Although I still get random sound issues: IE, sampling rate -I assume- issues where suddenly all my audio sounds pitched up, and other times when I don't hear any audio at all... the solution seems to be shutting down restarting, and sometimes changing the Audio Device from MIA/ECHO to Windows Classic and back again)

thats all for now.