Replace audio only?

farss wrote on 2/7/2005, 4:10 AM

So I've got a fairly starightforward project, just a single A/V track with cuts etc.
What I need to do is replace only the audio track with the original.
I can R click the clip in the media pool but that'll replace both the video and the audio. Problem here is I've done the CC in a previous render but now realise something got screwed up in the audio along the way so need to replace the audio track only.
Hope that makes some sense to someone.
Bob.

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gordyboy wrote on 2/7/2005, 4:25 AM

Can't you just open the relevant video event in the trimmer? This then allows you to select audio only. (right click - select 'audio only'

I do this all the time with events and sub-clips when I have audio synch problems - but maybe I haven't followed what the problem here is correctly..

Cheers

gordyboy

farss wrote on 2/7/2005, 4:34 AM

I'm not much of a trimmer user, but maybe that'll do the trick.
What you're saying is I open the source event in the trimmer, rclick the audio track and select replace from there?
I'll give it a go, nothing to loose !

Bob.

gordyboy wrote on 2/7/2005, 4:37 AM

What I do is double click the event so that the correct region is selected - then right click to open in trimmer. Then select the 'audio only' option, followed by copy and paste - as the region is already selected on the timeline, it should (and does) synch perfectly.

Cheers

gb

farss wrote on 2/7/2005, 4:59 AM

Not having any joy with this!
Problem I think is I've got multiple events from the one soure i.e. I've made many cuts in on the T/L of the one source. Now what I want to do is replace just the audio track effectively of the source.
To give an example:
Take 60 min tape, drop on T/L, cut 20 mins from middle and then replace the audio only from the tape with a different 60 mins of audio and have the final thing all in sync.

The way I do seem to be able to do this is by replacing the audio only portion on the T/L as a take but I have to do this one event at a time, painful but it does seem to work.

[edit] Nope, even takes don't save the day! Damn, I'll just have rerender the whole thing.

Bob.

TorS wrote on 2/7/2005, 5:44 AM

I can't test it right now, but something about "add as takes" comes to mind. Rightclick on the file in Vegas Explorer might do it. Otherwise the Trimmer or Media pool.
Tor

farss wrote on 2/7/2005, 6:14 AM

Nah,
been there tried all that. Only way would be to export the EDL and replace every instance of the audio track except I'd have to bring that into a new project which means I;d loose all my FX and envelopes.
I could export as XML but the thought of editing that is kind of scary, I'll save working that idea for a wet weekend in winter.
This whole mess I've got myslef into on this simple project shows the need for rigorous workflow policing. Problem is as the project went through various stages of approval I'd render out and give it to client, they'd want a bit cut out or some audio sweetened. Then the final problem is they want less compression on the audio but that was done several iterations ago, bugger!
I'm really starting to learn the benefits of light it right and record it right on the day. Sure you can fix a heck of a lot in post but when you work on many projects that span months trying to track just what you did at which generation is a nightmare.
We live and learn.
Bob.

nickle wrote on 2/7/2005, 8:55 AM

How about starting a new project and dragging it to the timeline and rendering audio only and bring that into the old project?

jeremyk wrote on 2/7/2005, 10:43 AM

I'm not completely sure I understand the situation, but could you make a new source file with the audio you want and rename it to the original file name? That would replace the audio in the clips wherever they appear.

Jeremy

Liam_Vegas wrote on 2/7/2005, 10:56 AM

Unless I am missing something here.. this is what I would do.

You have your original Veg file... with the audio now the way you need it to be?
Load the Rendered AVI (the one with the bad audio.. but good video) back onto the top - most track(s).
Mute the audio track for this video (or delete the audio track... or just drag the video only in the frst place).
Now render that to a new DV AVI file.

The video will not be touched at all (it will be a straight bit-copy as nothing has changed)... and the result will be a new AVI with the correct audio.

Make sense?

[edit] on re-reading the posts... I don't think I am quite understanding what is needed...I'll just sit back for a while until it makes more sense to me :-)

GaryKleiner wrote on 2/7/2005, 11:07 AM

Orphan Wizard in Excalibur finds and places the audio (or video) for your timeline events. Is that what you need to have done?

Gary

farss wrote on 2/7/2005, 12:12 PM

Gary,
that sounds exactly like what I'd needed. These aren't orphans but from what you're saying it's do the trick. Not to worry though I just went back one generation and re rendered the whole avi and replaced the avi file in the final project and alls well.
So one thing I learned here, working this way I'd have been much better off rendering out to separate video and audio files, maybe just keeping the original camera audio in the avi file as a reference.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.
Bob.