. .. apparently it is . . G

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Dunno 'bout you folks, but when i right-mouse-button click on a still image in Vegas' explorer window and choose "Open media in player", it opens up in my chosen graphics editing application.

*shrug*

Sounds to me like that's what you want, and that's what it does.

In typical Grazie fashion, he wants to do it from the Media Pool.

To do that right click and select "Explore containing folder" then right click the picture and select "Open with" then PSP.

One extra step.

Rumour has it he wants a button that will make tea while he edits.

EDIT You can also drag it to the timeline, right click copy then in PSP paste.

Another EDIT No you can't paste into PSP with the copy from timeline. I guess the Vegas clipboard isn't the windows clipboard

Australians have a term for those from the Motherland who complain too much :)

Sorry Grazie, couldn't resist, you know what us convicts are like.
And anyway, why should the damn button make TEA, real editors don't drink tea.
Bob.

Oh dear me . . . I had a good night's sleep . . turned on my PC and read the posts . . . I was quite saddened . . but have learnt even more - and more than just about NLE work too.

Kelly : "Dunno 'bout you folks, but when i right-mouse-button click on a still image in Vegas' explorer window and choose "Open media in player", it opens up in my chosen graphics editing application."

I'm not at Explorer - I'm in the Media Pool or on the timeline. But I guess you knew this from reading my post.

" *shrug* " - Why this? You don't understand my comment or tired with my idea or what? Or should I not discuss an idea I've had?

"Sounds to me like that's what you want, and that's what it does." - Not from where I'm working, where my creativity is happening at that moment and not from where I said and no it doesn't. I don't wish to go to Explorer when I'm at Media Pool - my decision making is now about graphic manipulation, not about media management, not about going into a folder situation with Explorer Win or Vegas. I don't go to explorer for applying Sound Forge stuff? I just right click and open the media in SF. Is it too much to "ask" for such a thing? Or should I not suggest such things? I guess I'll email you first with an idea to get your comments first - yes? - so I don't need to elicit feedback from, the "Dunno 'bout you folks," constituency hereabouts - and before I tire you Kelly - *shrug* .

nickle "In typical Grazie fashion, he wants to do it from the Media Pool." - I don't know about typical. I DO know I would like to change my mind about a graphic and would like to open said graphic in my graphics package from the point I'm working at.

To do that right click and select "Explore containing folder" then right click the picture and select "Open with" then PSP. Yes, nickle, I know this and implied this in my original post, "Yes I know I can use WinExp" and yes it is exactly why the, "One extra step." is why I'm offering an "idea". nickle, do you do a lot of graphic work?

"You can also drag it to the timeline, right click copy then in PSP paste." - Great! Neat idea! I'd go for this. And as you found out - probably by testing it - and not having had to use this option before, it doesn't work . . . this is my experience. Nickle, do you do much graphic manipulation "after" the event - after it is supposedly finished with? Ever had to change your ideas about how a graphic "appears" within footage?

Tell you what though: "Rumour has it" I really love Vegas - I use it most days; have come to appreciate the efforts of the programmers who created it and now develop it; the solidity of its execution on/with my "messy" workings and the ease of the interface. "Rumour has it" I come up with feedback about it, how I work with it and wish this software well - I want it to develop and sustain. "Rumour has it" I try hard to assist chums here who have problems - these are the "other" rumours too - yeah?

In my way of thinking feeding back "improvements" via my own personal usage was a way - I thought - I could do this. I don't know any other way, and I aint gonna change.

Nickle, thanks for leaving in your "EDITS" - I appreciate your openness in that you said something, you tried it, you found out it doesn't work, you related that to me . . and now to others.

Look, all ideas are valuable, some may not be feasible, but most ideas are won from trying something out and finding it isn't there. I've found that here - this Forum - is a place to "roadtest" these ideas with others - thank you. And, of course, there are others who read these posts: from Newbies and to Sony staff - I know this - guess you guys do too.

In my way of thinking, ideas ARE the lifeblood of any product - those who USE that product are as important AND it is where new ideas for improvement often/regularly come from.

In terms of a product's health, it falters and then dies because it blinkered itself to its own demise by being arrogant to the changes going on around it; complacent to the advances of its competitor/s and cynical towards its customer/user base.

It is my experience the Staff at Madison does everything I know to make my product better and are quick to nail issues that appear. In this respect I'm more than happy. Case in point, I attended Video Forum in London this last week, and was able to communicate "ideas" to Mr Bryant from Sony. He was very open and genuine to noting ideas and understanding what I was experiencing with the product - plus we had fun too! This I like - I like to be acknowledged and my ideas to be respected - very simple but very powerful concept.

For the future, and IMHO, Vegas is and has been so perfectly positioned for the next generation of super high speed pcs and HD cameras - this is more than obvious to me, that this has happened quite carefully by Sony. I like to be "associated" with a company that is/has this quality of "vision".

As the "convergence" of all things digital steps up yet another gear, the ability to cross platform "creative work" will be even more paramount in the thoughts of decision makers of software companies to make sure that their product delivers the highest standards in usability - for creative purposes.

Or am I wrong on this? - I don't think so and neither do I think is Sony. Not being a Sony staff member, I can't say, but I "feel" Sony places creativity very high on their agenda.

Finally . . . I posted here a wish for something to happen, to improve my workflow and allow me to access my own creative expression faster and with more ease than at present - nothing more . . nothing less.

My very best regards,

Graham "Grazie" Bernard

Is all this convergence stuff such a good thing?
So very shortly anyone will be able to afford to make a movie that'll technically be capable of projection on the silver screen. Hm, didn't the same thing happen not so long ago in the music industry and I don't think anyone could claim that's had a positive impact.
Bob.

It is happenning - it is here . . but bad stuff has always been made/created. We aint gonna de-invent convergance plus graphics and footage has always been moving towards each other. I just wanna click on media when and where I need to - that for me is T/L or MEdPool. Positive thing? Up to you pal .. and stop whinging . . .

Garzie

Yikes Grazie what happened to your sense of humour?

I'm not saying your idea wasn't a good one.

A context menu would be a good idea for lots of things that you may want to do by right-clicking. I'm sure Sony has a list a mile long with all the requests that users are asking for in this forum.

I look at things a little differently though.

Vegas is 40MB and is stable and reliable. But for many things it needs helpers. How many times have you seen that Boris can do this and After Effects can do that and Combustion is good for that and Flash programs help and a better Titler program works better.

The competitors are huge programs and do much more than Vegas. After Effects has a million plugins to do a million things. Adobe has a huge suite of programs that supposedly work together and they are 30 times the size of Vegas and DVDA when you add them up.

Boris is almost 10 times the size of Vegas and almost triple the price and what good is it without Vegas? And how many times have people said it's too hard to operate anyway?

Some times I wonder if Vegas will get big and bloated and start crashing like the competiton.

I would love to have all the features wrapped up in one program, but only if it works and the price is reasonable.

As it stands Vegas does a lot and does it well. It will keep improving and all the suggestions I'm sure are helpful to Sony.

All this is fine for me to say because I don't make a living with it, nor do I have any deadlines to meet.

And in this post, I think Kelly and I were just pointing out what does work to get your picture into PSP and not TELLING you how to do it.

And now since it is morning for you, have a good day.

True true . .

I'd be quite happy if Vegas lost a few features in return for some pretty basic stuff getting fixed like audio sync and ripple edit.
I'd add the same comments about CDA (although it seems they're finally doing something about it), once I get to the CD burning phase of a project I don't need envelopes or FXs or regions or markers, Vegas / SF handles all that, all I need to do is burn a redbook compliant CD and it'd be nice if I could have CD Text for if and when the client asks for it.
Bob.

. .anyways Bob, I'm getting my Miller trip on Monday! - YEAH! :)

Grazie,, if you drag your media to the timeline, and hit copy to clipboard in video preview, this will paste to photoshop. ,Not going to have your layers and such, just a copy, but may help in some instances

Winrock - thank you - this IS somewhere near. It wont firing up my PsP - but this is something! Do you know what quality this process gives this Copy>Paste into PsP? Well, for you PS? Do I have to remember to have it Full View and at Full Res on the Preview . . so I would have to remember that too?

I would still like a "feed" that would work to fire-up the Graphics package - yes? Here I'm still needing to place on T/L to get a Copy into PsP - yes?

So:

* Need to place onto T/L prior to COPY > PASTE

* No User selection of "choice" Graphics Editor - as one can elect for a Capture Programme or Sound Editor.

* Need to fire up my Graphics package - it wont happen auto

* Need to remember to select Good or Best (?)

Thanks,

Grazie

Seems same quality as if you save snapshot to file, whatever that may be. Definitly need preview monitor on full ,best. This process is useless if you have a layered file with adjustable effests, cause it aint the file , just a copy.

. There are several ways to get the actual file open in your program of choice, and seems to me you are aware of them,,, so ... bottom line, you have a feature request that would help your workflow. Maybe in Vegas 6

"you have a feature request that would help your workflow

Well yes, that's true, and of course I guess I can do this too.

But, my original request was for ascertaining if this is something that "others" would wish to have happen? I was "canvassing" our friends here, if this is what they would like to have. What I did get back were some "helpful" workarounds - based on the same concept I explained in my original post of using WinExp – but nobody wishing to support my thoughts, save Kentwolf.

I hoped I would have had some backing and encouragement in these weighty matters – but it appears, so far, it is my workflow and mine alone that I would be asking for. I would niether like to appear demanding just for myself nor that I have ignored the good advice offered by others here.

Pretty simple then - if I stumble on an idea I'll shoot it straight to Sony.

Best regards,

Grazie

I think it would be a great feature , No hunting, just open.