Ripping Music thru' WMP - No MetaData revealed?

Grazie wrote on 6/29/2015, 2:11 AM
OK, I've been using Windows Media Player for many years to get my RFM material into my Media directories to use in my Vegas projects. Putting a CD into my CD player, WMP starts up but doesn't reveal the Meta Data, nor when I Rip. Anybody else having this? All I get is Unknown Album, Unknown Artist - this is a pain. And yes I have accessed the WMP "Rip Settings" and confirmed what I want it to do.

TIA

Grazie

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farss wrote on 6/29/2015, 3:40 AM
Why don't you use Vegas?
From memory Vegas uses Gracenotes to generate the metadata. I suspect WMP is relying on the CD Text which may or may not be available.

Bob.
Grazie wrote on 6/29/2015, 4:12 AM
Yeah, that WAS the first thing I did, after I wasn't getting what I KNEW I could get, but all I got is the bland ref. number. I also know that the Meta Data is there because iTunes reads it fine.

Any other thoughts?

Grazie
AlanC wrote on 6/29/2015, 4:19 AM
Create a Playlist in iTunes then write it to a new folder with the meta data.
Grazie wrote on 6/29/2015, 4:37 AM
Yeah, that's where my Brain cell had gotten to when iTunes stepped up to the plate. Still does not answer the WMP issue for me. Have others experienced this?

Alan, thank you.

Grazie
Chienworks wrote on 6/29/2015, 6:41 AM
Years ago i wrote my own DJ software using WMP as the actual media player component of it. I load a directory full of music files and the program passes the files into alternating instances of WMP in order to do crossfades. Works great! Another feature of it is that it polls WMP for the metadata and fills in the playlist with the extra information as it goes. Unfortunately this feature apparently didn't work yet i was never able to find any reason why.

Later on i noticed something. Several of the fields for a few of the songs had been filled in! It seems that every few hours or so WMP will poll something online and grab information, but not as it plays the song. I guess it caches a few song titles, ones it inscrutably finds interesting for whatever personal reasons it has, and looks them up once in a while. Those titles it filled in had even had album cover artwork deposited into the folder.

So it does work, just on it's own very delayed schedule, when it feels like it. What's more interesting is that the only hint i had given it is that i tended to name the files like this: artist-album_title-track#-song_name.mp3, with no metadata at all. WMP was smart enough to parse the file names in order to look everything else up. Why it doesn't do this as it plays each song remains the mystery.
musicvid10 wrote on 6/29/2015, 6:50 AM
I love CDEX.
http://cdex.mu/features
Oldie but a goodie (like the posters in this thread)
;?)
wwaag wrote on 6/29/2015, 9:37 AM
@Grazie,

Just follow musicvid10's advice, use Cdex and save yourself a lot of pain. It's been awhile since I've used it, but when I ripped my CD collection some years ago, that's what I used with never a problem for getting tag info. It's very good. From another oldie, but not so sure about the goodie part?

wwaag

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musicvid10 wrote on 6/29/2015, 3:01 PM
Fully exposes Lame options, which is a good thing.
Wish it included fdk-aac.
Grazie wrote on 6/30/2015, 1:25 AM
Thanks Gentlemen for all your input.

However . . .

It would appear that the CD could be at fault in that, another CD from the same RFM Company has its MetaData immediately recognized by Windows Media Player, and ready to Rip. I also loaded another CD which too had its MD revealed by WMP.

So, dear people, it would seem to be the CD that's either at fault OR the Company has another error with this latest version of WMP . . .OR both!

Again, iTunes recognizes ALL the MetaData on this "issue" CD.

Grazie

Chienworks wrote on 6/30/2015, 11:58 AM
Redbook audio CDs do not contain metadata. There might be some CD-TEXT information on some discs, but not all. If i recall correctly not all software & players are known to handle CT-TEXT well even when it is present. About the only thing guaranteed to be on the disc is the music itself, and a serial number on the disc representing the title and release information from the disc producer.

Almost all data "retrieved" when ripping a CD is obtained through the internet from somewhere else besides the CD itself, usually using the serial number.

And, as i've seen often, WMP is usually pretty lousy at this.
Byron K wrote on 7/2/2015, 12:36 PM
You may have already looked at this but under Options, Library Tab. Verify the "Retrieve additional information from the Internet" is checked?

May not work for all CDs.