Risky to install Vegas 12 when Vegas 10 works?

marcel-vossen wrote on 2/22/2013, 5:16 AM
Hi there,

Can anyone tell me if it is a risk to install Vegas 12 on a working Vegas 10 system, for the stability of vegas 10 in any way?

Or do they both use 100% separate resources/files?

BTW this is a Windows 8 64 bit system




PeterDuke wrote on 2/22/2013, 6:16 AM
They install into separate folders. You should be able to run multiple instances of both at the same time (depending on RAM).
videoITguy wrote on 2/22/2013, 9:48 AM
The risk you run comes from incompatible hardware and its drivers interacting with the diff versions of Vegas. The best example is trying to operate an advanced video card setup with GPU set to on. But really there are many other scenarios, from mouseballs, to high-end interfaces like from BlackMagic design.
Ros wrote on 2/22/2013, 11:07 AM
I have been using V10 until a month ago as I am migating to V12 and have had V12 installed from the day it was released. Didn't noticed any stability issues with V10.

videoITguy wrote on 2/22/2013, 11:42 AM
Hmmmmm? seems RoS has a memory lapse within hours?
About this subject;
Subject: RE: continuing crush in vegas pro12
Reply by: RoS
Date: 2/22/2013 9:21:54 AM

Using with V12 build 486, I have never had so many crashes in all my Vegas history which goes back to V3
Ros wrote on 2/22/2013, 12:10 PM
The OP stated: for the stability of vegas 10 in any way.

So yes no problems with V10 having it installed alongside V12.

Now using V12 with the new 486 build and on a new project with mixed sources and V12 crashes frequently (5-10 times a day).

I did mention I wanted to be cautious about this because with build 394 and EX1 footage, all as fine so time should tell me what is the cause to the problem.

videoITguy wrote on 2/22/2013, 12:16 PM
RoS thanks for your own clarification, but not withstanding, my first post in this thread is the most relevant and represents an experience of more than one instance. Thanks for adding your addtn'l info.
Ros wrote on 2/22/2013, 12:25 PM
Sorry videoITguy, I went quickly through this thread and just noticed what you wrote earlier and it does make sense. I just wanted to offer some non-scientifc user experience :)
TheRhino wrote on 2/22/2013, 7:27 PM
Before I install a new release of Vegas I make a backup image of my OS & applications drive. I then load a complex VEG and allow each of the different versions of Vegas to render. If all goes well I keep it installed. If I start to see problems during editing I can either boot into another OS install or reload the previous backup image.

Currently my workstations multi-boot between different configurations. This allows me to keep a known working setup isolated from new Windows updates, drivers, VEG releases, etc. until I feel confident they are solid. Back in the XP days bad drivers would sometimes mess things up... In the Vista days bad Windows updates would mess things up... However, every since Win7 SP1, I have not had any issues with anything, but my system is now (3+) years old and so most of the drivers are mature...

Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...