Rodent Scrubbing?

farss wrote on 5/1/2004, 4:35 AM

Glad you mentioned that, I tried it for the first time yesterday and ah well, I'm underwhelmed. I thought it would be the same as the 'feature' in Premier but alas not. It seems no more than another graphical way of doing what you coudl already do. If you've got a shuttle I can see no need for it. I thought the cursor would have a handle that you could drag at 500X if you wanted. Maybe I've missed something.

Grazie wrote on 5/1/2004, 5:00 AM

farss - exactly! I nearly had a stand up altercation with a chap about this or the CSP . . CSP wins for me. I've reduced the speed, but I still don't get it. I've never had or "used" premmie so what I've not had - eh?

Grazie

farss wrote on 5/1/2004, 5:08 AM

Well I sure didn't find even the way prem did it was all that useful either. Having only had a quick play with the 'new' features in V5 I'm kind of wondering what was the driving force behind a lot of it. I'm kind of feeling it's being bought into line with something we know little about.

craftech wrote on 5/1/2004, 5:19 AM

What is Rodent Scrubbing? Is it a new feature in Vegas 5 (haven't bought it yet).

Is it like Midget Tossing?

John

Grazie wrote on 5/1/2004, 5:24 AM

JOHN! "Is it like Midget Tossing?" . . . you shouldn't have said that . . . please some BRIT, get me off the floor PLEASE!!!! . .. . . . ahhhhhhh . .. ..

.. phew .. . Grazie

craftech wrote on 5/1/2004, 5:29 AM

Sorry Grazie.
So WHAT is Rodent Scrubbing?

John

farss wrote on 5/1/2004, 5:47 AM

After a while lint builds up in your mouse and may cause the ball to stick giving jerky renders. V5 will autodetect this and corrects, doing away with the need to keep your rodent clean :)

farss wrote on 5/1/2004, 5:49 AM

Its being able to drag the cursor along the TL. In P you just grab the cursor handle and drag it as fast as you want, it tries to sort of give you a preview of the A/V.

Grazie wrote on 5/1/2004, 6:07 AM

John - Using your mouse to move or "scrub" the timeline. Scrubbing is the term used by eidtors for quickly previewing the video and sound in a type of "scrubbing" motion to see AND hear the underlying movie . .that's all . .the use of the owrd Rodent was my humour coming through - Grazie

JohnnyRoy wrote on 5/1/2004, 6:40 AM

> I'm kind of wondering what was the driving force behind a lot of it.

I assume it was people whining about Premiere having it and Vegas didn’t. Personally I don’t see the need for it. I use the J,K,L keys to scrub the timeline and then the Alt-arrow keys for finding the exact frame. I’m not sure what I’ll do with the mouse scrub. I personally, think it was just a habit that Premiere users had which would frustrate them in Vegas when they dragged the timeline (out of habit) and it maked a loop selection instead of scrubbing it. I think it’s a meaningless feature for the rest of us. You could already Ctrl-scrub the timeline in Vegas 4 with sound included. I don’t see the big deal.

~jr

farss wrote on 5/1/2004, 8:34 AM

If waht you're saying is right then they really stuffed up. Apple made the same mistake I've heard with FCP. They tried to make it work like an Avid system but only got it 98% the same and then went after Avid users. Needless to say it's more of a pain to feel like you're in the same workspace but it's not quite the same than to have to learn a new way of working. In the process they seem to have made their existing userbase a little unhappy as well.

RickGB wrote on 5/1/2004, 10:40 AM

In Premiere 6.5 you have to ALT-scrub to see any effects such as colour correction (whereas Vegas 4 is so much faster, it just shows them in the preview window real-time anyway). Or in Premiere you can just scrub with the mouse in the timeline very fast and it tries to keep up. Vegas does exactly the same when you drag out a loop area. Scrubbing with CONTROL in Vegas 4 is not the same, it responds more like a jog shuttle, I find it pretty unusable, though the J,K,L keys make up for it.

Cheesehole wrote on 5/1/2004, 10:54 AM

It's funny Rick how many people don't seem to realize that Vegas has always had this "Rodent Scrubbing" feature. Just click n drag a time selection. Even without Vegas 5 it works better than Premiere.

Although I don't remember how fast you could go in Premiere. I find if I am zoomed in a ways the drag speed is a little slow.

RickGB wrote on 5/1/2004, 11:03 AM

You're right, compared to Premiere, Vegas has so many different ways to zoom the timeline, play or scrub. As Premiere user it is just a case of discovering them all :-)

riredale wrote on 5/1/2004, 3:00 PM

I know in my case that when I came over to Vegas from Studio7 I really missed the ability to just grab the scrubber with the mouse and move it around at will. The JKL method was a huge step backwards for me, but now I've learned to live with it.

Grazie wrote on 5/1/2004, 10:37 PM

I use my Contour and it is great! I can select down to the frame level or whizzzzz right or left by twisting the knob! - Great! Grazie

filmy wrote on 5/1/2004, 10:57 PM

I haven't had more than 1 1/2 days on Vegas 5 so I can't comment on the function in question - but I will say I like Premiere and I very much like WAX....so I guess for those with Vegas 5 how does scrubbing in V5 compare to WAX?

Grazie wrote on 5/1/2004, 11:06 PM

Can't comment .. sorry . .G