Said it before... Progressive Scan support SUCKS!!

DJPadre wrote on 7/24/2009, 12:03 PM

Yes I am rightly pissed off.. since vegas 5, we have been griping on about progressive scan management in media within vegas. Sometimes it sees it as upper filed first, other times its ok with dealing with progressive natively...
Thats the first gripe.. If its progressive, its progressive... and this from renders done within vegas itself, so its not metatags within the clip, its the way Vegas is seeing said clip whcih is the problem..

second problem, and still as bad as its always been...
SLOW MOTION... for interlace material its fine, but no everyone uses interlace. Progressive slowmotion STILL SUCK DOGS BALLS.
Weve been harpin gon abotu this for over 5 yrs now and its an absolute joke.
Im stll using Dynapels Slowmotion frm 4yrs ago coz Vegas cant cut it... Premiere and FCP have updated their engine, whats with Sony??

What?? they think by buying out Velvetmatter and offering those plugs within V9 is gonna make up for a crap progressive engine?
Gimme decent slowmotion and let me worry about the wow factor effects and whether or not I wanna invest in them. Put that R&D and cash for licensing to better use by FIXING what is brokent.

It IS broken. Fix It. And dont tell me its not broken.... Try it yourself... just import ANY progressive scan footage and slow it down to 50%... hell even 75%, then come back to me and tell me that those results are acceptable ..

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TeetimeNC wrote on 11/26/2009, 6:45 AM

I get good slow motion in Vegas by overcranking my video:

1. Shoot 720p60
2. Put footage on 720p24 timeline.
3. Set clips playback rate to .4 (i.e., 24/60).

This produces nice frame accurate 40% slowmotion - no interpolated frames. But I only get 40%. For most of my work that is ok.

Vimeo example.

Jerry

amendegw wrote on 11/26/2009, 7:09 AM

TeeTime,

Anyone with the UserName "TeeTime" might be interested in the following SloMo. It was shot on a Pocket Camera (a Canon SD960 - 720p). SloMo was entirely in Vegas (as a I recall, I used a cntl-drag to the maximum - then slowed it further with a Velocity envelope.) It was rendered to a .wmv, 'cuz .wmv's seem to play more smoothly than .mp4's in Silverlight.

http://www.jazzythedog.com/lonnie.aspx

...Another Jerry

LoTN wrote on 11/26/2009, 10:12 AM

VanLazarus,

I know that the best way to get good slowmo is to raise the framerate or to shoot with overcranking. But sometimes, when it's edit time, you have to deal with footage which wasn't shot with this in mind. I already get decent results using only Vegas but if I want to slow under 45%, depending on the scene and the footage, the result may vary from acceptable to horrible.

John showed us a way to get really better slowmo with some given footage and I think, in my case (amateur), it's worth to have a try with MVtools.

John,

Your help is very much appreciated. No need for me to install FFTW lib. After a full work day, I think I wasn't in good shape to discover AviSynth. Today all works as expected :-)

Now, it's time for tweaking and learning.

Thanks to all gurus who make this forum a very very valuable source of information.