Get Galaxy S23 Ultra in Lime memory upgrade on us. Get 512 GB for the price of 256 GB.

This is on Samsungs website. This only applies to the Lime color S23. I am in US. I do not know if this is a international deal or limited to US.

For the A52 5g Samsung will give you $320 towards the new phone.

VEGAS can handle 8K footage.
I can't say the pixel limit on VEGAS as I've never tried massive resolution jpegs and would normally resize them for use in VEGAS.

The reality is that the lens this phone has can't deliver 8K worth of detail for video or 200MP worth of detail for prints.
Even excellent full-size photographic lenses can't do that with pixel-shift type computational photography (merging multiple images which requires a tripod and non-moving subject for maximum detail).

I wouldn't be swayed by marketing specs for resolution- check out some samples and see if it works for what you are doing. Also, resolution is hardly the only spec that matters for cameras or image quality.

I don't think future-proofing is possible as the images will always have the limits and characteristics inherent for technology of the era they are from. It's no more a flaw than the artifacts and character of say super 8 footage from a generation or two ago.

@Sassylola I only use my phone, for the same reason that i've always got it my pocket, but i've always avoided 8k, it's slow to refocus so i use UHD instead which is more than good enough for me, but got a new Samsung S23 Ultra not long ago so I'll play with the 8k.

Here's some S23 Ultra files I just threw together for you to play with , 1 x 8k vid & a few 200mp photos, I'll make some more vids later maybe,

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11J5drbicn1eng35YXg2KIyiY45Dnx6rU/view?usp=sharing

It looks like the Australian Samsung website deal seems to be as good or better - 'Save $200 off. Plus, $500 with trade-in'. Divide by about 68% to convert back to USD. And the AU offer seems to be for any color.

But really, it's not so much about the price but about the useability of the purchase with regards to video performance. I struggle to find any difference between my much older Galaxy S5 and Galaxy S8 with the A52S (other than 4K) but the latter is much worse in 'jello' wobble - not that the S5 or S8 were much better. Due to the exceptionally small sensor (like all phone cameras) phone camera quality is sadly not very good.

Thanks for the pictures Gid. Looks acceptable for both photos and videos.

For photos at a technical level these look like typical phone pictures. In my last job I was photo editor/color corrector for user-submitted images and got to work with many phones. Here I see smeary highlights, sharpening halos at edges, noise artifacts where images are blended together, and a lack of color detail (leaves are a single shade of green, etc.)
Don't zoom in too much and it's fine or for purer photos assuming it has a raw or DNG mode try that and do the post-processing yourself. It's what I do with my Pixel 3a using a custom DNG profile made with an X-Rite Colorchecker. In daylight there are times I can't tell it apart from my APS-C Sony (well, until I zoom in).

Didn't see much wobble in the video which is good. It's not so detailed- 80mb/s for 8K HEVC is miserly and compression kills whatever detail it had.

Also, resolution is hardly the only spec that matters for cameras or image quality.

Indeed, as horsepower doesn't say anything about the maxspeed of a car, there're still people that believe that pixels stand for imagequality.

A good example is the 8k upload of @Former user, unwatchable in my opinion.

@RogerS Yeah I'm never impressed with 8k on the phone, I'll have a look at the settings but they are limited.

Here's almost the same vid but UHD 60fps, much smoother & apart from motion blur it focuses quick enough, even UHD 30fps is better than the 8k.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ewE5YF1bo8_9SAzKRuorpU1fIyceNjv9/view?usp=sharing

PS I was moving around quickly to show it pretty much keeps up with the focus, 8k would be a mess moving at that speed

Hi, this is another 8k video, almost the same, 8k auto records in HEVC but this button was turned off, I normally have it off because I prefer UHD AVC , so I turned it on for this vid, don't think it made it record differently but this vid is a little smoother 🤷‍♂️

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MfNxdr6TfXumnHcK2Qjiem25MiDIV-7V/view?usp=sharing

@RogerS I know pretty much 0 about RAW but here's few DNG pics from the S23, these load into Vegas,

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13JpzBhoR3ymxfwRjGNfZU9O8PhYlB2O6?usp=sharing

Gid, thanks for the files from the S23. They did play back with no problem in Vegas. I will keep watching for some sales on this phone. Last week Best Buy and Amazon had the 512GB phone on sale for $999.00 and I waited to long and missed the sale.

I have a family friend, an artist who is taking gallery-quality nature stills with the S23. No opinion of its video, but I've seen enough stills that I would own one for that purpose.

@Sassylola 👍 I've only got the 256GB but I never use even half of that, I transfer the vids to the PC at the end of the day, but just out of curiousity here's about 100GB of UHD 3840x2160 footage I took last yr & still have to edit to upload to YT, (I've got 900GB of clips to edit 🤣) 100GB = 7½hrs, I prob only film a couple of hrs each day at the most,

This is interesting tho if you do plan on using 8k, you will need more storage space,

a 1 min clip 8k = 1.5GB, a 1 min UHD clip = 276mb

a 26sec clip 8k = 258mb, a 25sec UHD clip = 115mb. 🤷‍♂️

8K for consumer delivery of any kind is ridiculous. Just my opinion. They should spend the money on better lenses.

@mark-y I used FHD 1920x1080 for yrs for my YT vids, no one complained, I moved up to UHD no one noticed 🤣

PS I got you & @Sassylola mixed up in my last msg when i mentioned 8k, because you both have pink avatars. 🧐

8K for consumer delivery of any kind is ridiculous.

Maybe now, but not in the near future. The TV screen size that some now have would a few years ago have been considered ridiculous.

8K has been in Japan for 7 ish years now as it was pioneered here. Took part in an imaging expo circa 2016 where a videographer talked about the complete studio overhaul they needed to deal with those data rates and storage needs.

Even in showrooms using demo footage I can't really see a difference though. To look like 8K you need detailed scenes with high quality pixels, not puffed up smartphone footage or TV upscaled content.

To look like 8K you need detailed scenes with high quality pixels, not puffed up smartphone footage or TV upscaled content.

Something interesting to do is shoot a picture in on a samsung galaxy using RAW+JPG mode, and compare the unprocessed raw with the jpg. Crop the photo 1:1 There is so much noise reduction and sharpness going on to get a useable picture with the jpg. even (if memory serves me) at 100iso. The same thing is gong on with 8K video.

The enemy of compression fountains. First shot is S23 at 8K, then cropped to 1:1 pixel 1080P crop at 1080P and it looks terrible both containing fountain and without. So the idea of shooting at 8K for 2x lossless crops at 4K or 4x lossless crops at 1080P probably isn't a real thing with this phone, although a fountain is a worst case scenario.

Think also about the loss of details caused by the motion blur of those handheld smartphones.

8K for consumer delivery of any kind is ridiculous.

Maybe now, but not in the near future. The TV screen size that some now have would a few years ago have been considered ridiculous.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2018/10/28/dont-be-fooled-8k-tvs-are-a-waste-of-money-for-most-viewers/?sh=737ce4dc3036

Especially take a look at overview of optimal viewing distances.

This corresponds with my experience why I don't see any difference between watching 4k content and downscaled 4k to 2k content on my 65" 4kTV at normal viewing distance which is about 10ft.

Thanks for the DNGs, Gid.

I don't have jpegs to compare them to but they look very usable to me. Good detail and few obvious artifacts (turned down sharpening in my raw converter as they're already almost overly sharp). Center is quite detailed, edges not at all- I wonder if the jpegs use processing to make the rest of the image appear more detailed.

These are 50 megapixel files in size though I think usable data is quite a bit less than that so would downscale for output.

They are quite malleable for post-processing and it's easy to bring back highlights, add color and contrast, etc. I would do that at the raw stage and then export them as TIFF or jpg to get the most out of them before bringing them into VEGAS.

a few times now I've written a comment, & it's disappeared when i click Comment 😡

@RogerS Hi, yeah sorry my phone creates a DNG & a JPEG, I only shared the DNGs,

To create those I had to use a camera App called ExpertRAW that's already inc in the S23,

I have two choices 12mp & 50mp,

Here's a couple more with the JPEG + DNG, 1 x 12mp & 1 x 50mp

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bv0BaU4Vdp6t8E8H7sJl8qqoJDnxUnd1/view?usp=sharing

I've discovered that if i drag one of these DNG files into GIMP it loads a window, click the tick button bottom right & it loads it into the main GIMP interface 👍

@Sassylola FYI my son just did upgrade to latest Samsung through Verizon. In his case he didn't have to trade in the actual phone he has, he said it was much better to buy a Google Pixel4, broken, as even factoring in purchase cost trade in value was better than his old phone, and Verizon website specified broken was ok. YMMV obvoiusly