I think he is seeing the timeline compressed, ie vegas is only showing the first and last because of the view he has it set at. he needs to zoom in so he can see more frames.. I think!!!!!!!!!!


Flack

Thank you for the answer,
Do you mean that I can't have automatic detect scenes? For example, I'm recordind your face, stoped the cam, then turn on the cam again and continue to record another person, stoped again and so on...
Is it impossible to detect in Vegas? In premiere we can do that after put the clip in the timeline, and ask the program to detect each scene I stoped the cam, after that I can put transitions between the scenes, to make smooth transitions between them.

It will do that when you capture using vegas, but I don't know of any way to do that with existing footage.

When you capture a tape via Vegas (or other capture utilities) normally it will create a new AVI file for each clip it detects on the tape. Maybe premier does things differently?

It's not just Vegas either. Final Cut pro and iMovie both generate separate clips on your hard drive for each clip on the tape as well. How does Premier do it?

Scenalyzer Free, which is available at the link below, will split a clip using optical scene detection, i.e. based on abrupt change of content between adjacent frames. It only works on existing clips on the hard drive, as compared to the latest version that also splits clips during capture. Haven't tried this feature, so I've no idea how well it works. Anyway, since it is free, you might wish to give it a try.

Richard Hunter

Scenalyzer Free

AV-Cutty is another good choice:

http://www.avcutty.de/english/index.htm

Marco

Premiere up to 6.5 did not have scene detection during or after capture. It was arguably the biggest missing feature. Many folks like me used Sclive.

Premiere Pro now has it.

For capturing analogue footage, scenalyzer is great - makes life so much easier. I've just got a DV cam so Vegas capture/scene detection is fine, but I've got a big backlog of old Hi8 footage and without Scenalyzer I dread to think how long it would take me.

http://scenalyzer.com/

The trial version puts a thumbnail on some of the frames but other than that is fully functional

Would be nice if they had this for HDV when you maintain the original TS during capture. I tend to FF the tape between clips just a little so you can detect the break between TS packets.

>" Scenalyzer Free, which is available at the link below, will split a clip using optical scene detection, i.e. based on abrupt change of content between adjacent frames" .

Yes, that just what I wanted to do in Vegas 5, because I can do that like you mention above in Premiere 6.5. (analog clip captured from an ADVC100 canopus by means of 1394 of the ProOne RTDV-Pinnacle)
It means that I'll have to split a clip always when I have abrupt change in adjacent frames not automaticaly.
How can I combine sclive or premiere with vegas5 ? I mean, use scene detector in that programs then import the clip with all the scenes splited in Vegas, how can I do that?
Thank you,

What you're describing is also a feature that is available in the very inexpensive Pinnacle Studio. It can detect scenes during or after capture. Unfortunately, even if you do that, you can't bring this into Vegas from Studio, either. I like the way Studio does scene detection better than the way Vegas does it.

WIth Studio, you can have a single .avi capture file, and Studio will create a separate file the keeps track of where each scene begins and ends. In Vegas, it will create separate .avi capture files. Depending on your footage, you could end up with many, many little .avi files, which could become unmanageable. The advantage of this, however, is that you can delete all the scenes you don't want, freeing up storage.

So there are some pros and cons to each method.

Not sure what is the problem. If an external program can split the clip into scenes for you, why can't you just import all the scenes into Vegas? They are all individual avi files so it should be easy.

Richard

Have just tried AV Cutty and it works a treat - it can do optical scene detection on both DV and MJPEG video. It's a full working version and the author only asks for a small donation to stop the recurring reminder messages!
I use my xm2 to get anal stuff into vegas. Can then use the above to split.
Personally don't like scenalyzer.

Mel.

... and a new version of AV-Cutty with some more nice features will probably come soon. :-)

Marco

>"Not sure what is the problem. If an external program can split the clip into scenes for you, why can't you just import all the scenes into Vegas? They are all individual avi files so it should be easy."<

I can't understand why an expensive soft(Vegas5) can't do that, while scenalyzer, pinnacle studio and even free avcutty are able. Premiere can do that too.
Does somebody knows if Pinnacle Liquid Edition6 or AvidXpress pro or Canopus Edius3 do scene detector after capturing clips? I mean from captured analog tapes.
Thank you.