Thanks farss.

So should I render to progressive to be safe?

I think that'll create more problems than it solves.

In most cases I think you can leave the DVD as NTSC. I think most players here in Europe are compatible with NTSC.

/Ulf

Thanks guys. Grazie should be waking up soon. Perhaps he'll chime in as well.

.. . ooo . stretch . .yawn . .. rubs eyes . .. sniff . .cough .. splutter . . .

Mornin' . .. too early . . 6:18am . .

Well, I haven't done it TIHS way around. But I have made plenty of DVDs using the PAL set up. Keep it as simple as Bob says and you should be fine. I can't think of what else to say and think of what other constraints are going to "throw" you?

. . now, where is my coffee? . . . .

oh yeah forgiot . . give her TWO DVDs: 1xNTSC and 1xPAL. At least THIS way you can test out her dvd player for NTSC but you WILL have given her your best shot by also supplying her WITH a PAL too. MAke sense? So if one don;t work, the other should. In any event, if the NTSC plays it will still need to be "seen" by the PAL tellie .. . eh? Do it any way!

Virtually every player will play NTSC, but NOT all televisions will accept an NTSC signal, and some will only accept PAL 60 (which is a way to accept a 60Hz NTSC signal, but don't expect to see any colour).

So I would say render to PAL, create a PAL DVD, and leave it at that.

Worley

(London, England)

Why don't you ask your aunt what DVD player she has. Then you can look it up on the net and find out if it plays NTSC or not. The manufacturer or vcdhelp.com should have the relevant info. Then, if it is PAL only, go with Bob (farss). Else, do as you normally do.
Tor

My experience is that virtually all DVD players in the UK will play a NTSC DVD in one of 3 ways:

- Most will convert it on the fly to PAL60. Virtually all UK TVs will play this properly.

- Some will output proper NTSC. Most UK TVs will not play this. (you may get a black and white image).

- Some have a switch or menu option that allows you to choose between PAL60 or true NTSC output.

Mark (Bath, England)

My one contact in England says send it to him in NTSC. No big deal.

JJK

Thanks everyone and good morning (err afternoon for you as I write this). I figured I'd have to render the video to play on the left side of the road, etc. (insert various overused English jokes here) but it never occured to me that the "tellies" are PAL as well. While I respect and appreciate everyone's input, I think I'll stick with one PAL DVD. My aunt is in her seventies and barely knows a DVD player from a toaster. Come to think of it, I've not even confirmed with her that she even HAS a DVD player! I guess I better start with the basics. I can just imagine the look on her face as I try to explain to her which DVD to try first and why. Bloody hell!

Thanks again all!

The thing is, if the DVD player / TV combination is one of the vast majority that play NTSC fine, the video will look quite a bit better than a PAL conversion. Yes, a PAL render will be slightly more compatible, but it won't look as good.

Laurence,

Can you explain your logic here? I don't follow this at all. If you render your project in vegas in pal settings and then create your dvd in pal, that seems to be the cleanest and highest quality path to me with the least amount of reconversion in dvda... perhaps I've missed something?

gb

also in the UK

I don't think you can say one way or the other which will be best.

The important point to note is the vast majority of PAL DVDs players, when given a NTSC disc, convert it to PAL60 on the fly. So you aren't getting the "pure" original NTSC. So now the question is: which does a better job in converting: Vegas (in converting to proper PAL50), or the DVD player (converting on the fly to PAL60).

A minority of PAL DVD players will play NTSC as real NTSC, so then there is no loss... but most PAL TVs won't play this, so that doesn't really help!

In my experience there isn't much difference between converting to PAL in Vegas and letting the DVD player do the conversion... neither is as good as shooting PAL in the first place!! :-)

Just give her Grazie's phone number :~)

I can't see any difference personally between NTSC and PAL 60 on 60i material. You have a few extra interpolated lines but it's not a noticable difference. If you look at 24p material there is a bit of a difference in that you end up viewing it as 60i with a 3:2 pulldown. It doesn't look any worse than 24p played in a non-progressive scan mode on an NTSC player, but it doesn't look as good as 24p progressive scan.

NTSC footage converted to PAL stutters a little on fast pans, zooms, and animations. It's not horrible, but it's not as good as PAL 60 which looks every bit as smooth as NTSC.

????

I must be missing something here. The questioner is creating a project in Vegas and rendering it as PAL MPG2. Then rendering that PAL MPG2 into a DVDA PAL project to produce a standard PAL compatible DVD disc.

The recipient is playing that disc on a PAL DVD player onto a standard PAL TV.

At what stage does NTSC conversion come into anything? Nowhere to my mind....

gb

Well it was shot NTSC in the camera wasn't it?