Thanks Bob.

I've spoken too soon. In eager anticipation I've attempted to to recreate the success from yesterday. No.

I've got gabbled speech. Music plays fine. My VO is fine. Both these sections are 44. The captured speech is 48 and is garbled on render, like the sound of mismatch of sampling.

Preview, straight from the Timeline is perfect. I wouldn't bother to render if it weren't.

So, not outta the Woods yet!

G

Ok, I had a thought to Render further down the Timeline. A small sample consisting of CineScore at 44 AND the verbals at 48. Play render, perfect. No garbled render. I'm concluding a series of renders, extending further backwards to the beginning of the video and so far do good. Each of the 3 I've done are good. Each one is getting closer and closer to the beginning, which I'd picked up the garbled verbals.

Just waiting to hear the results.....

g

Quick and simple fix might be to render all the audio to the one sample rate.
I'd go for 48KHz. I generally render all my 44.1 from CD to 48 anyway, just to save the CPU load on playback.

Bob.

Hah! I think I've nailed just WHERE this is happening. The "WHY" I have no idea, but I can reproduce it at a drop of a chapeau and can control the anomaly.

Bob, yes that's a good idea to get me outta the mire I would appear to be in - cheers. It did cross my mind too.

Anyways, I've just complete 23 separate and logically adjusted Renders. Please do not forget I can HEAR everything perfectly while Previewing. I wouldn't render anything if it was sounding dickie to start.

After my rude awakening this morning to the Render NOT doing as I got yesterday - more of that later - I proceeded to see just WHAT was good that was on my Timeline. I started moving render Selection further and further towards the beginning of the video. To my pleasant surprise, both the Verbals and the CS WAV were perfect. OK . . Moving on . . I extended until I got to the Event Horizon - literally - where my VO ended. The render was perfect too. And this is where I crossed my fingers:

I render the section that INCLUDED my VO@44.1 uncomped mono + CS WAV@44.1 uncomped Stereo+ Captured verbals running@48 uncomped Linear PCM = Result RUBBISH! The captured verbals again returned to garbling. Wooooo . . . .

I can repeat this time and time again. I can MUTE my VO and the CS and Verbals are fine. Plop my VO back in, the captured verbals become garbled.

Question: Why then when I did my long full MP4 yesterday were things good? Does a long full render get to make adjustments to the better?

Please folks, do remember that played from the Timeline all is good.

What's your feedback on that? Apart from it's always a good thing NOT to hear from Grazie(wink!), even on a VO! Especially on a VO. Maybe SCS have programmed me out from NOT doing VO?

Seriously, capturing my VO via the Presonus, would THAT make a difference?

And also, that which I can hear, see and playback, in Preview, is NOT what I can get from rendering, whether I change Settings in Project settings or not - I now know that; nor whether I change Audio drivers.

- g

Yup, that did it Bob.

I separately Rendered my VO to 48 and now when I render to MP4 all sets of audio working as expected.

Later I'm going to to try capturing my VO at 48, to see the diff. Can I force a Vegas "Record" to 48? Or would that be another of the "set" settings being 44?

And again, it would appear Vegas is falling short somewhere to take, in a short render, an MP4, and deliver back clarity of mismatched media. Or rather ONLY this type of setup. What can hear is NOT what is being rendered, and this is restricted to a short render sample. Most discontenting and truly, TRULY frustrating.

Cheers everybody

- g

"Can I force a Vegas "Record" to 48? Or would that be another of the "set" settings being 44?"

Assuming your hardware supports it and I'm much inclined to think it would, yes. Vegas records at your project settings so just change those to 16bit 48KHz or if you want a bit more overhead, 24bit 48KHz.

Bob.

Grazie, i'd like to try and reproduce this, could you (just for my slow brain today) confirm you have this on your TL:

say track 1: VO@44.1 uncomped mono
say track 2: CS WAV@44.1 uncomped Stereo
say track 3: Captured verbals (is from your video footage or an audio device??) running@48 uncomped Linear PCM

And this renders garbled to MP4 - is that right.

thanks
Paul.

Yes. Only the Verbals are garbled.

Thanks for attempting to repro.

Again, what I hear on preview isn't what I get on render. To get "right" I rendered the VO to 48.

Cheers

- g

Hmm, trying it right now. But i dont get the problem here yet. Trying to break the project on render and it keep coming out correct.

Are your vebals coming from the camera footage? or a separate audio recording device and synced using Pluraleyes or something like that.
My test here is the audio from a 7D. Then the other audio tracks as listed over that.

Paul.

Camera audio from a Canon XF300.

No Plural Eyes.

G

Yeah, trying it here but all coming out clean so far. I have tried Sony AVC for MP4 output and MainConcept too. Tried changing settings in Project Settings and in the Render audio settings to 48/44.1. The output files are changing audio sample rate as shown in MediaInfo and play fine in windows media player. Just not hearing anything garbled here.
This is V11 build 425 right?

Edit: Just to be clear, garbled means pitch shifted, not distorted.
Paul.

Paul, yes, at one point yesterday i was getting get pitch shift, but it is predominately and now distorted, like a mismatch in sampling rates.

VP11 32bit.

All in MainConcept.

G

Sorry to say, after checking 32bit version too, its all working here. Cant reproduce.
However my wav music is not from CS, its a wav from a music file @44.1.
Dont think this makes any difference but maybe if you get the time, try a test using a wav music (like a ripped CD etc) file rather than a file from CS. Clutching at straws here!

Paul.

Thanks for trying.

g