Silly Vegas tutorial

alltheseworlds wrote on 1/25/2008, 3:56 PM
So, I look in my inbox and see an interesting email about lower thirds:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/news/article.asp?articleid=45&keycode=3508#cont

But what the heck is going on when Sony, promoing the features of its video app, can't even display any video in its tutorial ?

It's lame. Very, very lame.

Comments

JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/25/2008, 4:13 PM
Actually what was amazing is how poorly lit the green screen was in the footage on the timeline and how clean a key they pulled with Vegas!

Actually, text based tutorials reach the largest audience and they are easy to print out and save or just to work at your own pace. Resources like the DMN and the Cow are full of text based tutorials that are great. I see nothing wrong with them and I have them on my site..

As an aside: I've been learning a new 3D software package and all of the tutorials that I've found are video with no audio! People are raving about these tutorials and I'm watching magic happen on the screen because the person is using short-cut keys and I have no idea how they are doing what I'm seeing. Stuff just appears out of thin air! I will take a texted based tutorial over a video with no sound any day of the week. ;-)

~jr
rmack350 wrote on 1/25/2008, 4:24 PM
Sounds like the Sketchup tutorials.

Rob
JohnnyRoy wrote on 1/25/2008, 4:29 PM
> Sounds like the Sketchup tutorials.

Hexagon 2. Perhaps all of the instructors are mimes? ;-)

~jr
farss wrote on 1/25/2008, 4:42 PM
I think the point was to "display any video".
As in show how the finished video looked, not have the whole article as a video. I do have to agree about some tutorials though, a lot of the ones for 3D apps loose me in a few seconds.

Bob.
Dreamline wrote on 1/25/2008, 6:59 PM
It's a great tut. Thank you.

A shame the OP has to pick at it.
alltheseworlds wrote on 1/25/2008, 7:49 PM
C'mon. They're trying to market a video application. They offer a tutorial about an *animated* lower third. They even say in the tutorial "if this was video you would even see....". It's full of references to what you would see when performing certain operations.

But no video.

It's laughably stupid. There should at least be a clip showing the finished product.

Hands up anyone who does video for a living, but whose website includes NO video footage ?
Grazie wrote on 1/26/2008, 12:55 AM
Maybe because the production of SONY tutorials has its profit centre requirement, needing to make its own financial balance/way in life? You can actually "buy" the video tutorials. After all, an R&D budget is not as obvious a hostage, in needing to return a revenue stream. However I do realise that R&D MAKES the developments FOR the product which in turn makes more market share and thus more profit.

But tutorials? Eh, not so much . . ..

Would you want money going from R&D into the making of Tutorials? Could be that? What do you think? I might/may just have a point?

As the bottom of the screen says:

"Gary produces the popular Seminar Series training packages for Vegas Pro, ACID Pro, and Sound Forge software. He is also co-author of the book Digital Video and Audio Production. Gary has conducted countless hands-on classes in the Sony Creative Software training center, as well as at tradeshows such as the National Association of Broadcasters show."

. . and here is the link:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/trainingsupport.aspSeminar Series[/link]

I suppose it IS a very fine balance. Do you giveaway tutorials OR do you package them as a professional DVD set to do it?

Intersting, thought-provoking questions you raise and far deeper than at first glance - I would say?
winrockpost wrote on 1/26/2008, 7:06 AM
my favorite part is

My final lower third—if this were video you could see the background moving too!
deusx wrote on 1/26/2008, 7:42 AM
Tutorial explains well, what it is supposed to explain.

No video is necessary because it does not matter how the wavy lines in the background move, users can change that to something else anyway.
farss wrote on 1/26/2008, 1:41 PM
I wonder if those Seminar Series cover the bits that didn't make it into the V8 manual?
If so, does that mean the price of Vegas has gone up, you need to buy the product and the training DVDs?
Not complaining, good move if so. I see some vendors bundling them anyway. Might be better if it was more transparent though.

Bob.
alltheseworlds wrote on 1/26/2008, 6:35 PM
Hi Grazie. I was in the corporate world far too long to be fooled by the old "either/or" choice: Either the money goes into R&D or we put it into tutorials, which do you want ? That's the Simple Corporate Political Trap #1.

As a paying customer I'm not interested in all the competing internal politics or departmental spending policies. I own a video editing package. I receive a company email about a video tutorial. I follow the link. I see (what I regard) as a third-rate tutorial.

I'm left wondering whether the company simply produces poor support material, or whether it is in fact thinly disguised spam attempting to get me to buy video tutorials on DVD ?

Either way the value I place on their email links is now reduced. As a customer who has spent several thousand dollars with this company and subscribes to their mailing list, this is a very bad result for them.

That's what the corporate perspective should be.

PeterWright wrote on 1/26/2008, 7:05 PM
A bit strange that this tutorial is about something that Vegas has been able to do for years - not sure when Noise Texture was introduced, but 3 versions ago at least.

I'd prefer help with something new, like the Pro Titler. I've managed a few useful effects with this new tool, but each took me ages and left me feeling like a fumbling beginner.
bStro wrote on 1/26/2008, 8:21 PM
Here, watch these. Yeesh.

Rob
Grazie wrote on 1/27/2008, 12:40 AM
That's what the corporate perspective should be.

So, no change there then?

Do you have a present example going on that could be a model of excellence we could look at? Then we could point SONY at it?

Bottom line here is that they do charge for their tutes - as do others around here - and if so, why is it that they do? And BTW, are you aware of the amount spent by Madison on marketing and exposure and R&D so on? Point I am making is that each every company has its own particular profile. As you say, you had been around corporations for a long time, I'm guessing you will have an awareness and knowledge of how local/regional budgets are cut up compared to how the central dispersal of budgets works, and the financial philosophy works.

Rob, I was looking for these, and, again, couldn't find them. Thanks.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/27/2008, 4:55 AM
if it were a vid tutorial, i wouldn't of eve care. i find vid tut's (for the most part) to be annoying, slow & unhelpful.
Tim Stannard wrote on 1/27/2008, 1:16 PM
Have to agree with THF. I like to print off and study tutorials - Ed Troxels stuff is priceless in this respect.
Video tuts have their place - there's some stuff which is much better explained by a moving image.
But in most cases, when I want to do/learn something it's much easier to work with a printed tutorial on my desk whilst I work on the screen than load up some media player, flip between that and my workspace and keep pausing/fast forward/rewinding.