Simple, very low tech fix for render crashes

Birk Binnard wrote on 6/8/2013, 4:11 PM
Render using Safe Mode.

I know - simple minded. But it seems to work flawlessly. It's strange being able to see only the top of one timeline and only the media bin, but these boundaries are easily adjusted. But since all I wanted to do was render I just left everything alone.

I decided to try this after experiencing a number of crashes and BSOD's. BlueScreenView showed me that the crashes were occurring in different modules - my keyboard driver, video driver, a couple of MS DLLs, etc. I figured the reason for this is I have non-standard devices for keyboard (Logitch Lighted), mouse (Kingston trackball), and video (nVidia GeForce.) My motherboard (ASUS P8Z77-M) also has a special USB3 drive speeder-upper.

My system also has a mere 8GB or RAM. (I know, i hope to add another 8GB soon.)

Although I have the current versions of all software (including Win7-64) installed and running OK I figured why not try a pure vanilla system. Reverting all my drivers was not an attractive solution since I'd have to put them all back. So I just opted for Safe Mode and all my renders (AVCHD 1920x1080) ran with no problem. I even tried rendering 2 projects at the same time, and this too worked flawlessly.

I'm not at all sure what causes Vegas to crash, but I know I'm not the only one experiencing this. So maybe Safe Mode will be an easy fix for others.

Comments

videoITguy wrote on 6/8/2013, 8:15 PM
I have serious doubts whether your safe mode rendering is any more than a piece of luck that will at some time soon run out of steam.

What BSOD's due point to is serious hardware conflicts in your system and from your list provided - I would say they are spot-on for trouble. Your comment about USB3 aboard is interesting and if you are tweaking there - I would say throttle it back. If you are talkin about the Asus hype for the board, then nevermind its marketing.

Vegas rendering aside your hardware needs serious re-wiring. And one point to note - it can also be sign of a twitchy board and or memory - so the peripheral list is not necessarily the re-wire that you will need to make.
Birk Binnard wrote on 6/8/2013, 9:20 PM
I appreciate your reply - I expect time will tell the story.

My faith in the Safe Mode trick is pretty strong at the moment because my system, which I put together myself, runs solid as a rock for everything except VMS rendering AVCHD. This suggests to me that the BSODs have to do with VMS, and not my system.

At any rate, it is a simple trick to try and just might help some other people. It certainly can't hurt anything.
Markk655 wrote on 6/9/2013, 1:41 PM
Seems kind of strange to me. I have an Asus board, Nvidia card, Logitech wireless mouse & keyboard (not a set) and I don't get those BSODs (Win 8/64 bit & VMS 12).
MSmart wrote on 6/9/2013, 5:55 PM
I'm interested in hearing about that USB3 speeder-upper thingy.
DocSatori wrote on 6/9/2013, 6:24 PM
"I'm interested in hearing about that USB3 speeder-upper thingy."

I second that motion.
Markk655 wrote on 6/9/2013, 9:40 PM
This might be it
Birk Binnard wrote on 6/10/2013, 1:07 AM
Yes, that's it. My motherboard is an ASUS P8Z77-M and it supports that feature. What actually happens is there are 3 boot-time services started that do the actual work:

ASUSFILTER ASUS USB Hub filter driver c:\windows\syswow64\drivers\asusfilter.sys

ASUSstpt ASUS USB 3.0 Boost Storage Driver (Storport) c:\windows\system32\drivers\asusstpt.sys

ASUSumsc ASUS USB 3.0 Boost Storage Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\asusumsc.sys
MSmart wrote on 6/10/2013, 1:33 AM
OK, I see. I'm planning to build a rig using the ASUS P8Z77-V PRO mobo which also supports it.

But I think we're getting sidetracked from the OP's original problem. I doesn't appear that the USB boosting is causing it.

What RAM stick(s) do you have?
Markk655 wrote on 6/10/2013, 8:17 AM
I have it loading in as well (P8-Z77-V Deluxe).
Birk Binnard wrote on 6/10/2013, 12:37 PM
Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB DDR3 1600MHz

I plan on getting another 8BG soon. I think 16 should be plenty.
videoITguy wrote on 6/14/2013, 11:23 AM
The OP Birk found the reason for his unexplained BSOD's and all is well again.