Slow-mo frame rate and time code info

MixNut wrote on 9/23/2002, 12:04 PM
Hello,

I am in the midst of re-assembling a rough cut I did in VV3 in an Avid|DS system. Since VV3 cannot export an EDL, per se, we've been using a text EDL generated from View/Edit Details to drop the correct file/shot in at the correct record time. The problem, however, is that nearly all of the source video has been stretched/slow-mo'd. The Edit Details window does not report the resultant frame rate info, and, what's worse, the "in-time" numbers it reports [how far into the clip from 0:00:00] are POST stretch.

Thus, we're having to match all the shots by eye to a rendered file of the rough cut.

Is there any other way to get VV3 to generate a text list that shows frame rate of stretched clips? Is there a way to get VV3 to generate a report that shows in-times of source clips PRE stretch? Is there a way to remove some of the less usefull columns from the Edit Details window?

If not, these are issues that need addressing by SF in the next version.

Thanks

Comments

bakerja wrote on 9/23/2002, 2:38 PM
I second the motion! Adobe Premiere exports a pretty clean EDL. That would be a fabulous addition to VV. I do prefer editing with VV though.
Tyler.Durden wrote on 9/23/2002, 9:40 PM
Hi Nut,

I don't know if this will help, but Vegas does show the starting and ending frame numbers of DMC'd shots in the timeline, provided "show source frame numbers as TC in TL" is selected in prefs.

I ocassionally use the feature to match-frame out of velocity-envelope shots.

Also, rightclicking on a stretched event for properties shows framerate in decimal.

Might save you some eye-matching...

(I'm a little puzzled tho, a slowmo shot's inpoint is just an inpoint... the outpoint is usually the mysterious one... what gives?)

HTH, MPH
MixNut wrote on 9/24/2002, 1:39 PM
The number of frames into the shot that Vegas indicates in Edit Details only tells the in-point AFTER STRETCHING...I.E. how long into that shot AT STRETCHED SPEED. So, when returning tot he original, real-time clips, these numbers are meaningless.

Sometimes, for instance, the in-point is further in than the original clip is long!

Vegas should give me the frame number of the original media...Not the media after it's been stretched on the timeline.

Tyler.Durden wrote on 9/24/2002, 2:39 PM
Hi MixNut,

A garden-variety EDL will often include the framerate info as a comment, with the inpoint solid and the outpoint soft. When Vegas outputs an EDL (in a future version), this info will be included in some fashion, I'm sure.

For now, you still might save time by opening an excel spreadsheet and going through your project in Vegas and getting the real numbers off the timeline.

Better than eyematching, I rekon.

HTH, MPH