Thank you! I've been using Vegas for years, but its functions never cease to surprise me and seemingly, I will never get to the bottom of them either!

However, I don't have "slow-in" or "slow-out", just "slow" and the other options, so will give that a try.

Stuart, watch the Digital Juice video titled Working with Envelope Shapes: Create an Animated Vacation Postcard.
D. Eric Franks does a great job of explaining how the various options work.

Mike

Hello Stuart...
I believe smooth is the one you want...

Until that time... Earl J.

Mike, Earl, thank you both. That tutorial is excellent, and indeed, smooth is the option for me!

I was just trying to achieve the same gradual stop today, but merely changing the keyframes to slow or smooth in the event motion window doesn't quite get it.
The excellent Digital Juice video demonstrates how to use motion envelopes on the track motion level, but not event motion. However, you can right click on an event and create a velocity envelope.
I'm not sure whether creating envelope points and adjusting the envelopes works in conjunction with the "smooth," "slow" etc. keyframe selections, or whether one overrides the other. Shouldn't the keyframes automatically show up as envelope points when the envelope is created?
At any rate, I still haven't achieved that nice ease-in I'm looking for.......

"I'm not sure whether creating envelope points and adjusting the envelopes works in conjunction with the "smooth," "slow" etc. keyframe selections, . . " Well, not in conjunction, but they work ON each other.

" . . or whether one overrides the other. " No. The results are EITHER accumulative OR subtract. Override means one dominates the other by a type of "off" switch. I can see a point where a fake stasis could be achieved making you think that one or the other is an override?

"Shouldn't the keyframes automatically show up as envelope points when the envelope is created?" If you move within Track Motion a New Keyframe appears on the Track? Is that what you are asking?

"At any rate, I still haven't achieved that nice ease-in I'm looking for......." - Well, it IS what it IS.

However, you have realised that Motion in an Event can be slowed by VeloEnvels. You can add Points to the VeloEnvels too. And this can SLOW down the motion of the captured footage. Now what you are wanting is to create a further layer of slowed-down Pan or Zoom? Pan and Zoom you apply within PanCrop? Is THAT it? Well once you have the first level of slowness and you want to reduce that even further, I guess you could try making a Subclip of that FIRST Pan/Zoom and trying again? OR, make a render and bring that back OR try a nested Veg and bring that into a NEW Project and applying a further pan/zoom slow to that one?

The downside of all this is that maybe, very quickly, unless you do something with the inter-frame smear, you are going to be limited by the quality of the original format.

Grazie

In Event Pan/Crop window, setting "Key Frame Interpolation", "Smoothness" to 80 or 100% might meet your needs...

Grazie, what I'm personally trying to replicate is the type of behaviour you'd see with a manual pan on a fluid head, a slow, gradual start, a smooth pan followed by a slow, gradual stop.

I haven't experimented with all the suggestions yet, but a velocity envelop will certainly change pan speed, but I think it'll also change the speed of the footage.

My panning clip is going in a PIP box and is a 1920×1080 source, so the quality of source footage isn't really an issue.

...but a velocity envelop will certainly change pan speed, but I think it'll also change the speed of the footage.

Unfortunately it will.
What you're asking for is a feature set (like that found in most 3D apps) that we've been begging Sony to implement for several versions now.
As you can see, we're still waiting :-(

Mike

You need to go into your Preferences/External Controls &Automation/ and set your Track Motion default smoothness and your Pan/Crop default smoothness to 50 (%). This will make all of the changes in these features much smoother. Why this isn't the default setting is odd since if it is a 0, you don't have much smoothness at all when you try to change the keyframes to "smooth" or "slow" it has almost zero effect compared to the linear setting until you make the change above.

Mike

MTuggy, I'm in Preferences/External Controls & Automation but see no options for Track Motion or Pan/Crop default smoothness. Could it be located somewhere else?

ronhurt, it's at the bottom of the Options - Prefs - Editing tab.

Mike

He listed the wrong tab. Go to tab Editing under Preferences and see the 2 entries at the bottom, TM and Pan. Good discovery. John

I see it now, thanks!

For these Preferences:-

A] In VP8 under Editing Tab

B] In VP9 under External Control & Automation Tab

Grazie

B] In VP9 under External Control & Automation Tab

Thanks Grazie!!
Once again SCS likes to "play' with our heads/memories :-)

Mike

Going from memory here, but I think the default used to be 100, but after lots of complaints was changed to 0. Setting to 100 gives you smooth, but events can move out of frame (i.e., you may see a black border at the extents of the movement.

Why this isn't the default setting is odd since if it is a 0, you don't have much smoothness at all when you try to change the keyframes to "smooth" or "slow" it has almost zero effect compared to the linear setting until you make the change above.

Yes, the default used to be 100%. That setting gives you some strange motion results if you're doing anything more than panning from point A to point B (i.e. multiple pans around a picture creates more of a bezier curve to the motion instead of going from point to point to point). Used to drive folks new to Vegas crazy trying to figure out the problem. I'd say anything other than 0 is something you only use for specific situations; much happier with the new default!

Brian

Somewhat tangent Q on
what I saw in Digital Juice tutorial...

Workspace Background Color Adjustment

-- I have VP8 and noticed that VP9 was used here and that the author was able to darken the background to a mid-level gray. Is this a new feature in v.9 -- or am I being a putz in not knowing where/how to do it in v.8? :)

Thanks.

To get true control of smooth panning we need to have a Bezier curve for X and Y with "handles" the we can adjust. I have been asking for this for years. It's used in many other (primarily compositing) tools.

As far as I know, there is currently no way in Vegas to smoothly pan in a complete circle (or even a semi-circle) at a continuous speed.

Peter

To get true control of smooth panning we need to have a Bezier curve for X and Y with "handles" the we can adjust. I have been asking for this for years. It's used in many other (primarily compositing) tools.

As far as I know, there is currently no way in Vegas to smoothly pan in a complete circle (or even a semi-circle) at a continuous speed.

Peter

@Tech Diver That's also what I'm looking forward to!

@lan-mLMC what's the purpose of digging out such decade old threads? @Tech Diver last visit of the forum was in 2016.