SONY: Burning with DVDA ll is a waste

Dunn wrote on 2/1/2005, 1:06 PM

This is a nice program if you use NERO to burn your finished DVD. Burns with DVD ll produce poor results; Skips, Freezes ect., media doesn't matter. Is a fix in the works?

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mojazz101 wrote on 2/22/2005, 9:28 PM

I have had no problems burning with DVDA2 and my plextor burner.

farss wrote on 2/23/2005, 1:05 AM

Be warned. Using apps like Nero and RecordNowDX has cost me big time and I mean big time. Yes you will get a DVD that plays on many players. The issue is you are producing non compliant DVDs. You are burning UDF disks and DVDs are not UDF, it's a modified form of UDF.
Now I've found that many of the latest players (yes the latest ones) have problems with these DVDs, seems to be mostly the VHS / DVD recorder combos from Samsung.
We had 100s of one set of DVDs duplicated and 1000s replicated of another DVD and they will mostly not play past the menu in several models of DVD players. We went back and burnt new masters using DVDA and everything works fine.
One thing that will cause you grief even burinig with DVDA is the max bitrate. I've traced many issuea back to this. 8MB/sec is probably too high. It's fine with clean video but in our case as the stage lights went down and the noise went up pretty quick the bit rate spiked well over 9 MB/sec and many players lost the plot. We re-encoded at max 7.5MB/sec and never a problem.
Bob.

johnmeyer wrote on 2/23/2005, 9:18 AM

You are burning UDF disks and DVDs are not UDF

If you follow the directions in this link:

Nero to Burn DVD

you will burn compliant disks, if you use Nero 5.5. The directions given here show how to use the ISO settings, not the UDF settings. If you use the UDF settings, you are simply not doing it correctly and, as already noted, it won't produce a disk that is very compatible. However, Nero is perfectly capable of producing a totally compatible disk. In fact, I would argue it does the best job of compatibility of any application I have tried.

Yes, Nero can burn UDF disks, but that is not how you should use it to burn DVDs for playing video in set-top players.

[Edit] I felt a little uncomfortable with what I wrote above and then did a quick search. It appears that DVD disks DO use a form of UDF. Here is a quote from Burnworld.com:

DVD-Video discs use only UDF with all required data specified by UDF and ISO 13346 to allow playing in computer systems. They do not use ISO 9660 at all. The DVD-Video files must be no larger than 1 GB in size and be recorded as a single extent (i.e. in one continuous sequence). The first directory on the disc must be the VIDEO_TS directory containing all the files, and all filenames must be in the 8.3 (filename.ext) format.