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John_Cline wrote on 3/13/2011, 12:13 PM
I spent thirty years in the music business and I had a saying that used to make a lot of musicians angry, "Don't let artistic integrity get in the way of you making a living." The successful artists are audience motivated, they identify what their audience wants and creatively figure out ways to give it to them. This gives them the resources to finance the pet projects that have less or no commercial viability.

That said, I really want that new Sony 3D camera. It's coming out in April and I feel certain that there will be an update to Vegas that supports it. Vegas has traditionally been the first NLE to support new formats. 3D has been the "Holy Grail" for me for decades, now it's down to just waiting until April.
JJKizak wrote on 3/13/2011, 12:43 PM
Deusx:
What movies do you watch that don't have a syndrome?
JJK
Rob Franks wrote on 3/13/2011, 1:27 PM
"That said, I really want that new Sony 3D camera. It's coming out in April"

It may be late. In light of the Japan mess Sony (as well as Toshiba and many others) have shut down all Japan operations to assess damage. No word on when they will open operations again :(

"Sony, Toshiba

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-13/japan-tries-to-contain-nuclear-leak-as-earthquake-death-toll-may-top-1-400.html
John_Cline wrote on 3/13/2011, 2:51 PM
In light of the enormity of the tragedy and suffering in Japan right now, I can certainly wait for something as ridiculously trivial as a new camcorder.
kairosmatt wrote on 3/13/2011, 3:52 PM
Wow, this thread is all over the place. New gear, our favourite types of media (films), the future of 3D, and some articles from HD Video pro.

I think this article brings it all together:

http://www.hdvideopro.com/blog/editor/2011/02/director-wim-wenders-premieres-new-project-in-3d-at-berlinale.html

But only because Win Wenders is one of MY favourites!!

kairosmatt

apit34356 wrote on 3/13/2011, 4:01 PM
From what limited contact I had with engineers and individuals --- the news from BBC is lite on detail about the destruction inland. Major factory structures endured well considering the event but just about all the "on demand" suppliers facilities where destroyed or badly damaged, shipping cargo containers lost in the wash-back to the sea AND the lost human life numbers keep climbing. Many critical engineers needed can't be located, making rescue operations even harder. The nuclear power-plants appear to be in disarray.

John_Cline wrote on 3/13/2011, 5:19 PM
"God, you really think a lot of yourself. Is there any soapbox you won't get on?"

To whom are you speaking?
Rob Franks wrote on 3/13/2011, 5:25 PM
"To whom are you speaking? "

Does it really matter. He sounds pretty much 'out to lunch' anyways.
farss wrote on 3/13/2011, 5:47 PM
Just to pull this back on track a bit.

I think whoever said it 3D is waning is correct but the meaning of waning is subject to interprotation. For many commentators in the industry the metric is the rate of growth in sales and in that context then 3D in the consummer space is waning. I'd be utterly gobsmacked and alarmed if it wasn't.

Some seem to have been expecting S3D to be another Audio CD revolution and it will not happen. Even surround sound is not pervasive i.e. the majority of homes do not have a surround sound system setup. That does not mean surround sound is a failure or is going to go away. I seriously doubt S3D will ever become pervasive in the home either but that does not mean it is a failure.

One of the great challenges for S3D is it is a major technical challenge to shoot well. The current consummer cameras do not do it justice the same as the current consummer cameras with "surround" sound don't do surround sound justice. Even those with serious money and skills still have major issues shooting S3D. Only a couple of days ago I heard a bit of a horror story about using two Red cameras in an underwater housing with a mirror rig. Other issues related to using half silvered mirrors are coming to light. If those with huge budgets are having these technical challenges good luck to Joe Average and his incredibly cheap 3D pignose camera. One grave danger is people will lay down the money for these epxecting a Hollywood result and not get it or send their mates trotting off to the bathroom. Greed could kill S3D, that is a big worry.

Bob.
ushere wrote on 3/13/2011, 11:48 PM
while i waited for blu-ray vs hd dvd to play out, along came streaming video. for me and my clients optical is pretty much dead.

while i wait for 3d to sort itself out i'll also be looking ahead to see what pop's up BEFORE 3d's sorted so i don't bleed to death on the cutting edge....
Steve Mann wrote on 3/14/2011, 7:32 PM
"I watched Avatar in 2D and that movie is such an unbelievable load of crap"

Your opinion, apparently a very minority one at that. Avatar made the most money ever for a movie. Roughly $1.83 Billion.

Steve Mann
Laurence wrote on 3/14/2011, 8:18 PM
Not bad for a ripoff of Southpark's "Dances with Smurfs"

For anyone who misses the humor of this, Southpark did a parody of "Dances with Wolves" except that they used blue smurfs. When "Avitar" came out, they correctly pointed out that they had already done the blue creature version of "Dances with Wolves". Same plot, same color scheme, several years before...

I would post a link, but it seems to be off Youtube now due to copywrite issues.

Steve Mann wrote on 3/14/2011, 9:02 PM
I always thought the story was "The Smufs at Ferngully".
Of course robin Williams as "Batty" in Ferngully made it an amusing film to watch. I never could stand the Smurfs. (Ever notice that they are all guys, and just one girl Smurf?)

But as a couple of short-sighted posters have pointed out, they are judging the whole technology on their own narrow-minded non-acceptance of one story.

Laurence wrote on 3/14/2011, 11:31 PM
Don't get me wrong. I loved Avitar and saw it in the theater in 3d with my son twice. I liked Dances with Wolves as well. In a few years I have no doubt there will be another knock of and I'll probably like that as well (hopefully in 4D).

My son and I liked both Star Wars and the most recent Star Trek as well in spite of their amazingly similar plot lines:



In these kinds of movies, the genius is in the technology and the imagery, not the story line.


rs170a wrote on 3/15/2011, 5:02 AM
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Mike
farss wrote on 3/15/2011, 6:37 AM
In all fairness there's a considerable number of Hollywood classics whose storyline is also nothing more than something to hang the visuals and spectacle on. Many of them exploited what at the time was cutting edge technology to enhance the eye and ear candy to put bums on seats.

Bob.

gpsmikey wrote on 3/15/2011, 10:02 AM
That is hardly a new "feature" of Hollywood. Look at that classic "The sound of Music" - just recently one of the sisters died (from the family that movie was based on) and they were quoting some of her comments. When asked about the story that the "Sound of Music" supposedly represented, she made the comment that while the names were correct, instead of escaping over the mountains (as in the movie) they had simply got on the train or bus (I forget which). Hollywood has for years used the "documentary" ("based on a true story") to mean the names have been preserved to link it to the original, but all the facts have been changed for effects. This isn't new - it is what sells which is what fuels Hollywood.

For the home, surround sound, 3d and other things like that are great if you have the time and money to set up your home theater and the opportunity to appreciate it. Ever tried to appreciate "surround sound" with "surround children" in the house ? :-)

mikey
John_Cline wrote on 3/20/2011, 4:06 AM
In 1956, TIME magazine proclaimed that Color TV was "the most resounding industrial flop." I guess they would be proven wrong...