Sony MTS file loads in Vegas 17 as video, but in Vegas 18 as audio

StaryKaszub wrote on 9/24/2020, 1:16 PM

In Vegas Pro 17 I can import Sony MTS file and it appears in the project media tab as video. The same file imported in the Vegas Pro 18 appears in the project media tab as audio. Below is MediaInfo description of the MTS file:

General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : 00700.MTS
CompleteName_Last                        : 00725.MTS
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 1.86 GiB
Duration                                 : 20 s 706 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 772 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 24.0 Mb/s
Recorded date                            : 2020-03-14 09:50:29+02:00
Writing application                      : Sony NEX-7

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, picture structure       : Frame
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 20 s 800 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 741 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 22.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan type, store method                  : Interleaved fields
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 14.293
Stream size                              : 1.79 GiB (96%)
IrisFNumber                              : 14.000000

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 20 s 800 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 650 KiB (0%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text
ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
Duration                                 : 20 s 215 ms

I must say the change in behavior between version 17 and 18 is surprising at least. Is there a reason for threating Sony MTS files as audio files?

Below is my computer as seen by Vega Pro 18:

Operating System
  Platform: Windows 10.0 (64-bit)
  Version: 10.00.19041
  Language: Polish
  System locale: English
  User locale: Polish

Processor
  Class: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6800K CPU @ 3.40GHz
  Identifier: GenuineIntel
  Number of processors: 12
  MMX available: Yes
  SSE available: Yes
  SSE2 available: Yes
  SSE3 available: Yes
  SSSE3 available: Yes
  SSE4.1 available: Yes
  SSE4.2 available: Yes

Display
  Primary: 1920x1200x32

Memory
  Physical memory: 32 688,4 MB
  Paging memory available: 37 552,5 MB
 

And component information:

Application
    Path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\vegas180.exe

CD/DVD
    sfcd.cdd.dll version: 18.0.0.334
    sfspti.dll version: 18.0.0.334
    sfcdix.cfg version: 1.2.0
    sfcdix.cfg checksum: 185764

File I/O Plug-Ins
    ac3studioplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\ac3studioplug\ac3studioplug.dll

    aifplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\aifplug\aifplug.dll

    atracplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\atracplug\atracplug.dll

    aviplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\aviplug\aviplug.dll

    compoundplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug\compoundplug.dll

    flacplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\flacplug\flacplug.dll

    gifplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\gifplug\gifplug.dll

    mcaacplug.dll
      version: 1.0.0.8532
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mcaacplug\mcaacplug.dll

    mcmp4plug2.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mcmp4plug2\mcmp4plug2.dll

    mcmp4xavcs.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mcmp4xavcs\mcmp4xavcs.dll

    mcplug2.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mcplug2\mcplug2.dll

    mp3plug2.dll
      version: 3.0.0.14
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mp3plug2\mp3plug2.dll

    mp4plug3.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mp4plug3\mp4plug3.dll

    mvcplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mvcplug\mvcplug.dll

    mxavcaacplug.dll
      version: 1.0.0.8532
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxavcaacplug\mxavcaacplug.dll

    mxfhdcamsrplug.dll
      version: 3.0.0.14
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxfhdcamsrplug\mxfhdcamsrplug.dll

    mxfp2.dll
      version: 3.0.0.14
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxfp2\mxfp2.dll

    mxfplug.dll
      version: 3.0.0.14
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxfplug\mxfplug.dll

    mxfplug3.dll
      version: 3.0.0.14
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxfplug3\mxfplug3.dll

    mxfxavc.dll
      version: 3.0.0.14
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxfxavc\mxfxavc.dll

    mxhevcplug.dll
      version: 1.0.0.8532
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxhevcplug\mxhevcplug.dll

    oggplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\oggplug\oggplug.dll

    qt7plug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\qt7plug\qt7plug.dll

    redplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\redplug\redplug.dll

    sctplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\sctplug\sctplug.dll

    sflgaplg.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\sflgaplg\sflgaplg.dll

    sfpaplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\sfpaplug\sfpaplug.dll

    so4compoundplug.dll
      version: 1.0.0.8532
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug\so4compoundplug.dll

    stl2plg.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\stl2plg\stl2plg.dll

    vduplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\vduplug\vduplug.dll

    wavplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\wavplug\wavplug.dll

    wicplug.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\wicplug\wicplug.dll

    wmfplug4.dll
      version: 18.0.0.334
      path: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\wmfplug4\wmfplug4.dll

Additional error message from Vegas 18 not included in the original post, sorry!

Warning: An error occurred while trying to open a project file from a previous version.

The proper stream could not be found in the media file

Media file 00700.MTS has changed enough that the media stream properties from the project file could not be applied. Default media stream properties were used.

Comments

j-v wrote on 9/24/2020, 1:29 PM

I also use MTS files, not from Sony but Panasonic

Your filesize is very big through a very high bitrate of 741 MB/s, mine are 25 max for 50p.
But if this is a normal file I like to test it in my VPro 18; are you able to place a small file on a site as Dropbox where I can download it unharmed.

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Laptop  :Asus ROG GL753VD, W10 home version 2004 build 19041.264, CPU i7 7700HQ, 8 GB RAM, GeF. GTX 1050 (2 GB) + Int. HD Graphics 630(2GB).VP 17,18 and VMS PL 16,17 are installed, all latest builds
Both Nvidia GPU's have driver version 456.71 Studio Driver.
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StaryKaszub wrote on 9/24/2020, 3:08 PM

Here you will find the MTS file that loads as video in Vegas 17 and as audio in Vegas 18

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag9-CnkuAPzChPIm3VFOFpvfFSTDYQ?e=GNyhWx

 

Marco. wrote on 9/24/2020, 3:22 PM

Your file works fine for me in Vegas Pro 18 build 334, both video and audio.

If you right-click this file in the Vegas Pro Explorer and select "Properties", what's the name of the plug-in listed on the bottom of the video properties window?

StaryKaszub wrote on 9/24/2020, 3:48 PM

Plug-In
  Name: mcplug2.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mcplug2
  Format: MainConcept MPEG-1
  Version: Version 18.0 (Build 334)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

 

Marco. wrote on 9/24/2020, 3:53 PM

Interesting. Here it is "compoundplug.dll".

I have no glue why this happens on your system. What you could try to do is temporarely renaming the folder "mcplug2" in C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 18.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\. Maybe this then forces Vegas Pro to use the correct I/O-Plug-in.

j-v wrote on 9/24/2020, 4:10 PM

@StaryKaszub  Thanks for the file from which the MediaInfo looks totally different for bitrate than in your OP.
Framerate stated in MediaInfo is 25 interlaced frames, while Vegas detects it as progresstive.
This one with me as @Marco. no problem on my desktop in VPro 17 b 334while decoder is also compound plug, look

Last changed by j-v on 9/24/2020, 4:12 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W10 home version 2004 build 19041.264, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti.
Laptop  :Asus ROG GL753VD, W10 home version 2004 build 19041.264, CPU i7 7700HQ, 8 GB RAM, GeF. GTX 1050 (2 GB) + Int. HD Graphics 630(2GB).VP 17,18 and VMS PL 16,17 are installed, all latest builds
Both Nvidia GPU's have driver version 456.71 Studio Driver.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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Marco. wrote on 9/24/2020, 4:12 PM

@StaryKaszub
How exactly did you import these files into Vegas Pro?

StaryKaszub wrote on 9/24/2020, 4:33 PM

@Marco - drag&drop and import project media give the same result. I also remember that after drag&drop operation Vegas 18 informed about successful activation of Main Concept plug-in. Is there a way to change the plug-in handling project media import?

Marco. wrote on 9/24/2020, 4:45 PM

You could try changig the AVC Decoder setting in Options/Preferences/File I/O, though usually it is not recommened to change the default (legacy unselected).

set wrote on 9/24/2020, 4:49 PM

The other way I can think is same approach to MP3 issue: reset VP18

 

wwaag wrote on 9/24/2020, 4:58 PM

Imports OK in V18 here except for Vegas thinking it's progressive which seems to be a common problem that I see quite frequently.

Note: when I imported I elected not to change project settings.

Last changed by wwaag on 9/24/2020, 5:01 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

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StaryKaszub wrote on 10/6/2020, 11:39 AM

Solved! I've deleted the following folder:

 C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Local\VEGAS Pro\18.0

Started Vegas Pro 18 and my MTS files loaded properly.

Thanks for all the help I've received form this great community!

j-v wrote on 10/6/2020, 11:51 AM

Solved! I've deleted the following folder:

 C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Local\VEGAS Pro\18.0

Started Vegas Pro 18 and my MTS files loaded properly.

Thanks for all the help I've received form this great community!

That means you did a total reset of the program to the default installed values.

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W10 home version 2004 build 19041.264, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti.
Laptop  :Asus ROG GL753VD, W10 home version 2004 build 19041.264, CPU i7 7700HQ, 8 GB RAM, GeF. GTX 1050 (2 GB) + Int. HD Graphics 630(2GB).VP 17,18 and VMS PL 16,17 are installed, all latest builds
Both Nvidia GPU's have driver version 456.71 Studio Driver.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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