Sony V8 + Sony CF recorder = TERRIBLE

bruceo wrote on 5/27/2008, 5:57 PM

I've posted on this before, but now another 60 days later and 8 projects with about 70 hours of footage recorded by Z7U onto CF and not one project is Vegas able to complete. We can eventually get 8 hours of clips from the CF recorder into vegas and usually start editing, but after a day or two of cutting then Vegas will hit a frame in the thumbnails or preview window and then the video buffer or MCdecoder crashes. Sometimes we can figure out the clip vegas doesn't like and rename it and move on for a while until it fubars again. Any clips that vegas doesn't like play perfect in WMP or VLC player. So we end up wasting all those man hours and having to start from scratch with a recapture of all the source tapes.

So since solid state recording results in multitudes of clips for every start/stop and Vegas takes a reeeediculous amount of time loading those projects because of the large amount of source clips, you'll have to wait 5 or 10 minutes for the project to load then end up watching the thumbnails load in and then crash the project making it almost impossible to figure out the source clip causing the crash.

I also continue to find that Vegas often doesn't even like its own M2T output because it will black frame or flatline audio sections on m2ts dropped into the timeline that were originally renedred output straight form Vegas. WTF SCS?

Is there ANYONE out there ANYWHERE using the Sony CF recorder for weddings or long form creative shoots with 6-8 hours of clips that is having any success?

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bruceo wrote on 5/29/2008, 9:59 AM

Gosh if that's all it would take to make Vegas like editing on an Avid I'd be overjoyed. It would be nice though if we could control thumbnails and waveforms independantly.

:-) I am referring to the fact if you are a vegas editor you don't really need organization. You can just drop all of your mud on the timeline and scan + zoom though it and find almost anything you need instantly. Where in Avid you really have to be much more organized which lends itself to trimmer to timeline sequential editing and sequence organization.

bruceo wrote on 5/29/2008, 10:13 AM

"Of course, his specific Sony camera could be pushing the address lines too quick, where the camera's interface is at fault for this specific product CF.

But there has been a number of reports of CF failures over the last two years."

All the footage captured is viable and playable, but say there ARE100 errors in a project with 8 hours of footage and 700 clips. Errors that might be much like dropped frames during a capture glitch or an HDV dropout. Vegas should not be having catastrophic crashes. Go back and look at old forum posts, the same arguments were made with HDV captures from tape that were doing the same thing with locked up renders and timeline crashes. Then Vegas was updated and all those problems pretty much totally went away, rendering all the excuses that are now being made here useless.....

I'm praying that the V8 update V64 release and DVDa5 release goes down early in Jun and are what they should be. Then all will be right in the world...

Konrad wrote on 5/29/2008, 6:05 PM

Have you tested your Z7 with a Sony or Lexar 300x CF Card to see if you can duplicate the errors?

alltheseworlds wrote on 5/29/2008, 7:02 PM

+1
A simple test like this would short-circuit a lot of debate....

bruceo wrote on 5/30/2008, 11:41 AM

Have you tested your Z7 with a Sony or Lexar 300x CF Card to see if you can duplicate the errors?

Is that what you use with your Z7 cams?

bruceo wrote on 5/30/2008, 11:42 AM

"+1
A simple test like this would short-circuit a lot of debate...."

What cards are you using?