sot - update nerves.....

ushere wrote on 8/28/2009, 6:23 PM
just checking to see if the iron butterflies crashing around my stomach and general nervousness and unmitigated worrying regarding ANY form of update is just me, or a general malaise of the pc community?

i ask because i just TRIED to update my lan drivers from gigabyte (following their instructions and CORRECT version download for win 7 / 64) and got my first crash in win 7 - well, not crash but freeze, after which i had to do a sys restore to get back up and running.....

i'm not sure i have the stamina for this sort of shit any more - ok, i can forgive sony a few bugs, after all, they don't know exactly what my system is, but gigabyte? for their own motherboard?

where's my abacus?

rant off.

leslie

Comments

John_Cline wrote on 8/28/2009, 6:34 PM
If you don't have the stamina then why are you playing with an operating system that hasn't even been released yet? They have until October 22nd to work the bugs out.
craftech wrote on 8/28/2009, 6:51 PM
Leslie,

Lan problems with Gigabyte motherboards are well documented. There are helpful discussions regarding that and other problems on the Tweaktown Gigabyte Forum.

John
ushere wrote on 8/28/2009, 7:02 PM
@ jc -

If you don't have the stamina then why are you playing with an operating system that hasn't even been released yet?

a. because at least the operating system has a huge beta-test base, (which is more than can be said of vegas!) along with quite a number of very informative and helpful boards (which can also be said of vegas!).
b. i want to use 64 bit vegas, and xp is too old, and vista, well enough said....
c. and the subject covers ALL software, os, vegas updates, etc.,

They have until October 22nd to work the bugs out.

if you haven't noticed, win 7 rtm is out and about. now whether they're going to recall all those copies because of a bug is another matter. either way i have been running win 7 / xp pro dual booted on my new pc without problems until the lan episode.

@ craftech -

thanks, i'll have an amble over there and see what they have to say.

either way, i have found win 7 / 64 a delight to use, and as i wrote, this is my first problem with it - which is more than can be said of my little, but traumatic experiences with vista....

leslie
johnmeyer wrote on 8/28/2009, 8:15 PM
I didn't update my last computer for its entire 5+ year existence. No Windows security updates, no application updates: nothing.

I also don't install new software unless I absolutely need it. I have a laptop, which I often restore from an image, which I use to test new things.

As a result, I NEVER have problems with crashes, unexplained weirdness, things that worked yesterday that don't work today, slowdowns, etc. I DO work on client computers all the time, and I see what has become of them thanks to half a dozen programs constantly updating themselves in the background.

Pathetic performance, instability, etc.

I also don't update Vegas anymore. I use 7.0d every day and it works fantastically well. I had a license for 8.0 when it first cam out, but didn't install it until this past spring (8.0c). I only use it for AVCHD, and when I use that format, I convert to an intermediate and then continue editing in 7.0d.

As for 8.1, I spent a LOT of money when I bought my new computer in January to get a dual boot computer, with Vista 64 bit, just so I could run 8.1. I had a horrible time: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=638824}8.1

When 9.0 came out, I was all set to try it, especially after the initial glowing reports. Fortunately, I didn't open my wallet, nor did I waste any time downloading and trying it. Based on what I've read the past 24 hours, I am still not tempted. Fortunately, my workflow doesn't require any of the features in 9.x.

So, in general, I agree with ushere that I have gotten quite conservative (reactionary) when it comes to upgrades, and not just those from SCS.

It is sad to see what has happened to my old industry, but whatever the reason, most companies seem to have fallen into this careless, lackluster pattern.

Of course there is iZotope, a wonderful exception to this trend: stable, good updates, people you can still get hold of. I think the folks at Cineform may also be in this same camp. Small is certainly part of the reason they are better, but I also think it starts at the top.

So, turn off ALL automatic updates, and never upgrade software unless you have a very specific, show-stopper reason to do so.


UlfLaursen wrote on 8/28/2009, 8:38 PM
That is very wise, John.
The best situation is of course if you can have a separate PC for only editing that you don't mess arround with. I have that and an old P4 3.0 for test purposes, where I install all kind of programs recommended here and other places. I have an image that I restore in minutes to go back to scratch.

/Ulf
Grazie wrote on 8/28/2009, 10:54 PM
Ulf and John - yes.

IzoRx - yes.

Standalone NLE PC - Oh, YES!

Trails of Windies updates on my INTERNET pc - PERIOD.

My Video editing PC was created and is maintained by the same company that design this stuff for a living - all over the UK and beyond. They wouldn't even allow me to think of Vista, and 7 has NOT been on the agenda. I am staying with 32 for the foreseeable future. I am not at the bleeding' edge of our industry so I have the largess to not need to. Others do and do so.

As to the development and roll-out of the different versions of VEgas over the years? I keep sensible, and use a stable version for client's work with forward planning and my education using later versions as they come along. This approach allows me to dig-out what new and useful ways I can get to many ideas. I hope we are all sending "improvements" up to SONY? I know I do. But that's the way I work, and how I have been developing my "video-head".

Grazie