Stabilization Mercalli V4 versus newblue

bitman wrote on 9/15/2017, 3:58 AM

I have the Newblue stabilizer OFX for windows on V14 and V15 and I was wondering if it was en par with the Mercalli v4 (which I have on V14). With the Mercalli V4 " Vegas14 to 15 - 99 dollar update" debacle in mind, which is best? Any advice?

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altarvic wrote on 9/15/2017, 8:59 AM

Interesting..

I installed NBFX Stabilizer, but it doesn't work in VP14 and VP15 - the effect is not in the Video FX list. On the same computer, it is visible in Vegas Pro 11 and 13 (Sony version).

So, I thought that it is not supported in VP14+, am I wrong?

jetdv wrote on 9/15/2017, 9:36 AM

Please try this version:

 

dl.newbluefx.com/download/Win/NewBlueStabilizer.exe

bitman wrote on 9/15/2017, 12:26 PM

You can compare the possible differences yourself in 14 and 15 ( 15 only Mercalli with watermark), why do you want advice from others who don't know your workflow nor your footage.


I know I can compare it myself, but the reason I ask it is quite simple, (and not because I am lazy), but for starters it is very difficult to compare: there are many settings (and as you point out many sources and workflows) and the result differs so much that I cannot even tell which is "best" as the result is different. I am only trying to get a general idea what the overall consensus is of which product is best in most situations. If someone can point pro and cons that would also be great. I am willing to pay the extra 99 dollar only if it is a better product than Newblue stabilizer (or Vegas own build in stabilizer).

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bitman wrote on 9/15/2017, 1:02 PM

Interesting..

I installed NBFX Stabilizer, but it doesn't work in VP14 and VP15 - the effect is not in the Video FX list. On the same computer, it is visible in Vegas Pro 11 and 13 (Sony version).

So, I thought that it is not supported in VP14+, am I wrong?


It works on v14 and v15, I got my NB stabilizer for windows somewhere around 2013, it is legacy sw but still seem to work for V14 and V15...

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 250) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

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  • Monitor: LG UltraGear 45GX950A 44.5" WUHD 5K2K OLED monitor (21:9), Resolution: 5120x2160, 165 Hz
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
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Kinvermark wrote on 9/15/2017, 1:32 PM

I looked at this briefly a year or so ago, and dismissed the NewBlue as older technology with similar results to vegas' internal stabilizer. Caveat: things may have changed and my analysis was pretty minimal.

At the other end of the scale is mocha pro. You could try that for 500 bucks or so... :)

 

altarvic wrote on 9/15/2017, 1:59 PM

Please try this version:

 

dl.newbluefx.com/download/Win/NewBlueStabilizer.exe

This version works! Thanks!

Jillian_A wrote on 9/15/2017, 2:16 PM

I tried the NewBlue stabilizer a few years ago and found it worse than nothing. Every time I closed a project and re-opened I had to re-run the stabilizer and at least half the time when I rendered I would get a few frames at the beginning of each stabilized event saying the stabilizer need to be re-run. It stabilized a little better than the Sony built-in unit, but in no way can it be compared with Mercalli 4. After about a month I just uninstalled it and deleted it from my computer. In fact, the only two NewBlue plugin I now use are color corrector pro and the titling EX in Movie Studio 12. I got tired of trying to get all the later plugin working in later versions of Studio and Vegas. YMMV.