standalaone Slow Mo software

DJPadre wrote on 12/31/2007, 10:23 PM

ok, since Vegas slow mo in progressive sux dogs balls, does anyone know of another option?
I was checking out Kronos, but this only runs on AE7. Ive got 6.5 and i hate AE anyway...

I use combustion, but its a tedious process and rendering is a bitch

A the moment, im using Dynapels Slowmotion, and for not vibrant (ie shits which fluctuate luma) it works fine, however in high detailed ares (liek tree branches, or high contrast edges, it has a bleed through which looks like bad WMV compression (i KNOW its not that, but thats what it looks like)

So does anyone know of a good slow motion app? Preferably fast...
Is there anything for VDub maybe?

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DJPadre wrote on 12/31/2007, 10:27 PM

http://neuron2.net/bob.html

anyone try this?

farss wrote on 1/1/2008, 2:03 AM

That's a pretty old trick I think of converting fields to frames. If you've shot P I don't see how it can work.

Sony have a uber expensive HD broadcast camera that'll save a few seconds (minutes?) at 150fps for slo mo sports and I guess they're selling, sure looked impressive when I watched the demo. Thing is if there was anyway to do this really well in software even if it needed $100K worth of hardware I'm certain the broadcasters would be lapping it up.
I can see how you can get close using fancy pixel tracking interpolation to build tween frames however there's got to be many scanarios where the process will fail and artifacts become evident.

Your other problem is shutter speed. Low fps P looks pretty horrid with a fast shutter speed but you need that if you want a chance to get slo mo or the motion blur will kill it.

Bob.

johnmeyer wrote on 1/1/2008, 11:13 AM

If you have the $$, Twixtor is an app lots of people use. I have better luck, however, using MVTools, a plugin for AVISynth. I posted a starter script here:

Starter MVTools Slo-Mo Script

The script was designed for interlaced but can be modified for progressive.

The problem with motion estimated slo-mo is that it breaks down (doesn't work) on some types of motion. However, when it works, it is truly awesome.

As for slo-mo in Vegas using progressive, I usually disable resample and live with the jerky frame-by-frame slow motion (i.e., it looks like a film projector that has been slowed down). Each frame is simply displayed for a longer time. There are no artifacts whatsoever, and each frame is perfectly sharp.