Sticking with 8.0c.

BrianStanding wrote on 11/6/2011, 8:38 AM

I've tried 9.0, 10.0d, and 11 and they are all buggier than 8.0c, which is completely rock solid on my system. The "black clip" problem is especially deadly for me, since I use almost exclusively Cineform. While some of the new features are nice, they're not worth the hassle of bugs and restarts.

So, sorry, Sony. No further upgrade money from me until you fix this mess.

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MomentsVideos wrote on 11/7/2011, 7:00 AM

I hear you Brian, I have had to stick with 8c also.

Issues I had...

Vegas 9 (which I foolishly purchased but can't use)
- Audio issues when using non-realtime audio effect (seems to be a work around to do with audio buffer, but still annoying)
- Disappearing clips

Vegas 10 trial issues
- Could not open my Vegas 8 projects!!

Vegas 11 trial issues
- Same as Vegas 10, not opening my Vegas 8 files.

Also, can you describe the "black clip" problem? Which version is that in?

i am erikd wrote on 11/7/2011, 7:30 AM

Being a former user of 8.0c only for a long time, I feel that I can safely vouch for 9e. I have not had any issues with 9e that I couldn't have with 8c. 10d on the other hand has not won my full respect as of yet. 11? Beta software for sure. I think one of the reasons Sony went with a build number for updates this time around is because they know there are plenty of them to come before they get all the bugs worked out of 11.

Erik

Laurence wrote on 11/7/2011, 8:41 AM

9e has occasional black frame problems but only with certain formats. Aside from that it is rock solid. The latest version of V10 and V11 work fine for me as long as I stick to mpeg2 and AVCHD. Not useable with formats like Cineform and mov photo jpeg.

LReavis wrote on 11/7/2011, 9:08 PM

The later iterations of V9 were not that bad for editing - not as rock solid as 8c, but usable - especially if the project wasn't all that long.

But 8c is the pits for rendering. Instead, I always use one of the latter releases of V9-64 bits for rendering. It never fails. Unless I must use 32-bit plugins, in which case I use one of the later releases of V9-32 bits. Cross your fingers, it still will put out a complete render. If not, I just cut up the project into pieces, render each to Cineform, put the rendered clips back up on the TL top track, then render all to get a complete Cineform file. From that final render I can then render to whatever format I prefer for my final output.

I only use V10 for BCC7 - immediately rendering to Cineform for placement back on the 8c TL.

A bit cumbersome, but foolproof.

i am erikd wrote on 11/7/2011, 11:55 PM

"The later iterations of V9 were not that bad for editing - not as rock solid as 8c, but usable - especially if the project wasn't all that long."

I use 9e for 30 minute television programs that include many layers of FX and hundreds of clips in the project. Things will slow down some towards the end of the project (especially after conforming to full resolution) but 9e will keep working straight through a generally flawless render.

Erik

Grazie wrote on 11/8/2011, 1:16 AM

Your system specs indicate you're running WinXP. Does VP11 run on XP?

Cheers

- g

i am erikd wrote on 11/8/2011, 7:03 AM

"Your system specs indicate you're running WinXP. Does VP11 run on XP?"

I'm not sure who your question was addressed to Grazie but I have VP11 on another box that I set aside as a toy to play around with the latest version of Vegas. I have no intentions of getting serious with V11 anytime soon.

Erik

BrianStanding wrote on 11/8/2011, 4:13 PM

"Black Clip" problem described extensively here:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=773927&Replies=59

Shows up in many recent versions of Vegas. Some never seem to experience it, others experience it constantly.

BrianStanding wrote on 11/8/2011, 4:17 PM

Used the 11 tryout on my wife's Windows 7 laptop. Not a happy experience.