Stills, titles and video clips to DVD

gus2150 wrote on 12/16/2003, 9:05 PM
I visited Grand Teton, Yellowstone and Rocky Mountain National Parks in August and took a LOT of nice still pictures plus a lot of good video. Now I want to collect the best still pictures and the best video clips and create documentary style movies, one (or more) for each park.

My plan is to create a number of chapters for each park with each chapter as a separate video in MS3, then output it as an MPEG-2 file which will then be imported by MovieFactory 2 where I will create the menu and burn to DVD. I would like to begin each chapter with a title page describing where and what this is. There might also be additional title pages within the chapter.

On the surface, this sounds easy enough, but I have some questions:

1. If I start each chapter (video clip) with a title page, this title page will end up being the thumbnail picture for the menu created in MF2. The title page will NOT make a very attractive thumbnail - you might see that there is some text there, but you certainly cannot read it. And if I use a fade-in title, there won't be anything there, except maybe a blue rectangle. Is there a way I can get MF2 to use another still image for the thumbnail? My only thought is that I would have to insert a still picture as the first event in the video, then follow that with the title, then the stills and video clips. Is that the best I can do?

2. My video clips already have sound, like a waterfall or people talking, etc. But when I intersperse still pictures with the video, all of a sudden there is silence. What do I do to make this more pleasant? Should I add background music that plays across both the stills and the videos? Then maybe use a volume envelope to increase the volume during the stills and decrease it during the videos?

I'm sure I'm not the first one to want to combine still pictures and videos together on a DVD. I'm not looking for professional results, but on the other hand I don't want it to look "hokey". You guys that have already done this, could you give me some advice? It would be much appreciated.

Per M-W, "hokey" means 1. CORNY, 2. obviously contrived, 3. PHONY.

Comments

IanG wrote on 12/17/2003, 12:54 AM
I don't have MovieFactory 2, so I can't help with 1 - sorry!

For 2 though there are options. First, as you suggest, add some background music - it makes a huge difference! You can find lots of useful stuff at Freeplaymusic.

Listen to the background noises you've already got and try and find sections which are non-specific, things like wind in the trees, water running, birdsong etc. You can copy these and paste them into the silent sections, overlapping the edges so that you get a smooth transition. Browse the web for sound effects such as birdsong or insects that you can use (but not overuse!). You might also want to cut out and replace sections where "noises off" don't fit!

If you get a program like MP3 Audio Mixer you can have a lot of fun building up soundscapes from your various audio clips. These can be exported as wavs or mp3s and then imported into MS.

Ian G.
gus2150 wrote on 12/17/2003, 6:24 AM
Hey, thanks, those sound (pardon the pun) like excellent ideas. I have Sony Music Studio (same as ACID 4) and also Cakewalk so I can cut, edit, adjust volume and paste sound files. Also, as you imply, there are some video clips where the sound would be better replaced. Good! That gives me inspiration!
JohnnyRoy wrote on 12/17/2003, 6:45 AM
For #1: If you just click on the thumbnail at the menu page, it will bring up a preview window where you can set it to any frame in your movie by just moving the slider.

For #2: I agree with Ian. Either find some ambient background noise from somewhere else in the video or add a music bed, or do both.

~jr
gus2150 wrote on 12/17/2003, 7:06 AM
> For #1: If you just click on the thumbnail at the menu page, it will bring up a preview window where you can set it to any frame in your movie by just moving the slider.

I did not know that. Thanks, that will be perfect!
IanG wrote on 12/17/2003, 7:19 AM
One other thing - if you right click on the audio transition you'll get options for the way you want the fade-in / fade-out to behave. If you can still hear the join, try adding a sound effect across it, on another track, and adjust the volume to suit.

Ian G.
Stiffler wrote on 12/19/2003, 12:26 AM
One thing I notice when watching a documentary, news clip, or movies....Some transitions they use work like this:

At the end of one (video) scene, the audio for the next scene starts before the next video clip starts. (Does that make sense)?

Before the video cut, the audio will start before the video is seen....

I'm just saying you could 'lengthen' your audio over your still pictures to fill the gaps. (Maybe there is there a name for this type of transition)?

Just a thought.
IanG wrote on 12/19/2003, 12:33 AM
>Maybe there is there a name for this type of transition

If the audio starts before the video it's a "J cut", if the audio finishes after the video it's an "L cut". In Studio this is "an advanced technique"!

Ian G.
hbwerner wrote on 12/19/2003, 4:31 AM
Reply to Stiffler - I like your suggestion to lengthen the audio to overlay a quiet sections (such as a title) or into the next video clip. How do you suggest lengthening it? By streching the audio line, or shortening it's accompanying video?