@jetdv Thank you, there are some useful things for a client I need. I would like to work within the Vegas ecosystem, but am not sure of the limitations.

-Stock footage has limits in Edit version of 365, what are those limits, exactly?

I have Vegas Edit 365.

I think the limit is 20 downloads per month, up to 1080p. I guess I will find out soon as I have already downloaded 18 items...

@misohoza Ahh, thanks. I have Vegas Edit 19 and am torn between upgrading to Edit 20 or going for Vegas Post. Vegas Post seems more geared towards sci-fi/fantasy rather than documentary/information and the other add-ons are not as good as Sound Forge Pro or Xara. For effects, BorisFX Continuum and Mocha seem the better investment, perhaps. I only need stock footage for specific projects as I prefer to make my own footage, so going with Edit 365 could be the better value, and then buy the Vegas Edit 20 upgrade. Am also still working in 1080P at the moment.

You can download the Vegas Post trial and check yourself.

I have Vegas Post 19 perpetual. The only 2 programs I use are Vegas and Vegas Effects. I already have Continuum so the Primatte Studio addon is not really relevant to me.

So the only reason for me to upgrade to Vegas Post 20 would be the Vegas Effects.

So I decided to try the monthly subscription. Paying 20€ per month is not that bad compared to what stock footage services cost when you check storyblocks or actionvfx.

But I may also buy a perpetual license later, either Post or Edit. I'll see.

As a relative Vegas veteran, It is better to ask than download trials. It takes time and effort to set up a new program. I have used trials in the past and do not need to go through it again. I prefer to just ask and then use if it is confirmed the program has the things I need.

As for BorisFX, I just have some units and the title program that comes with Vegas packages/promotionals. Apparently, you are qualified for a deep discount to a full BorisFX package if you have at least four BorisFX units.

For whether the stock footage is what you need do a 1 month subscription and see? Personally I am impressed with it and the audio library.

Vegas Post seems more geared towards sci-fi/fantasy rather than documentary/information

@Former user All versions of VEGAS are exactly the same. And all can edit the same genres. The only difference between the versions is what else is included with VEGAS.

@jetdv Have you tried Vegas Post? Look at the presets for effects and then tell me it is for all genres.

There is a clear bias for sci-fi/fantasy in the presets of Vegas Post. This is not a bad thing if that is your production interest. I am looking for other things that could be more useful for my needs.

@Former user All of the built-in effects are the same in all versions of VEGAS. Different packages include different "add ons" but I have seen nothing that shows "there is a clear bias for sci-fi/fantasy".

@jetdv quoting myself, "...Look at the presets for effects..."

@Former user I have - over the past 20 years - and I see nothing that says "there is a clear bias for sci-fi/fantasy". The effects I see and be used it a variety of ways in any sort of edit. I do many edits - none of which are "sci-fi/fantasy" - but most don't need a lot of effects beyond maybe some color correction which VEGAS does very well; especially using the new color correction panel.

@jetdv It is apparent we are discussing different things. In Vegas Post, there is something known as 'Vegas effects', that is what I am referring to. Magix calls it 'Vegas effects', maybe it would be helpful for the sake of this discussion if they called it something else, like 'Vegas motion graphics'. A hint is that it is part of Vegas Post...

@Former user, do a search on the web for "hitfilm". VEGAS Effects is a bundled version of HitFilm. It adds more compositing options. Think of it like After Effects is for Premiere. Would you say Adobe After Effects has a "clear bias for sci-fi/fantasy".

VEGAS Effects is an add-on in the Post package to the basic VEGAS package. It can help in many ways that may or may not include sci-fi/fantasy. It's just a compositing app that has several features not found in the base VEGAS application.

VEGAS Image is also included in the Post package as an add-on. It would be similar to what PhotoShop is for Premiere.

@Former user Do you have the trial of Vegas Post?

I wouldn't say Vegas Effects is geared towards sci-fi only. Yes, there are some presets of fire, smoke, explosions...

But there are other useful tools for keying, color correction and grading. It's quite handy for motion graphics, titling, more complex compositing, masking and motion tracking. You can import 3D models which doesn't have to be a spaceship.

I quite like the way keyframes are handled on the timeline.

@misohoza @jetdv I have used After Effects and Vegas Post Effects, the latter has more bias towards sci-fi and fantasy whereas the former tends to be more agnostic. As in AE can serve wider uses. The lightsaber presets and the like in Vegas Post Effects really are pushing a certain direction. I would also not compare After Effects and Vegas Post Effects, nor Vegas Image and PhotoShop. Xara Pro would have been a better choice than Vegas Image, but what can we do?

Colorgrading/correction/keying are part of Vegas core and not what I was referring to.

What holds me back from After Effects is Adobe's pricing structure (subscription only). Then you have something like Boris FX where outright license is an option and less 'genre biased' if you will.

HitFilm certainly does have a bias if you look at their marketing. Am not sure you would want to use that software for National Geographic or Smithsonian videos...

But you two are saying, "Ignore the marketing, ignore some of those presets, Vegas Post is still a good product that will help with informationals and documentaries." Okay, I will take that into consideration and probably get it then.

For text and motion graphics Post has its uses for narrative work.

@misohoza @jetdv I have used After Effects and Vegas Post Effects, the latter has more bias towards sci-fi and fantasy whereas the former tends to be more agnostic. As in AE can serve wider uses. The lightsaber presets and the like in Vegas Post Effects really are pushing a certain direction. I would also not compare After Effects and Vegas Post Effects, nor Vegas Image and PhotoShop. Xara Pro would have been a better choice than Vegas Image, but what can we do?

Colorgrading/correction/keying are part of Vegas core and not what I was referring to.

What holds me back from After Effects is Adobe's pricing structure (subscription only). Then you have something like Boris FX where outright license is an option and less 'genre biased' if you will.

HitFilm certainly does have a bias if you look at their marketing. Am not sure you would want to use that software for National Geographic or Smithsonian videos...

But you two are saying, "Ignore the marketing, ignore some of those presets, Vegas Post is still a good product that will help with informationals and documentaries." Okay, I will take that into consideration and probably get it then.

it's basically the same thing as after effects, but it comes with some effects that you have to pay for in AE. For instance, Trapcode Form and Particular are useful in making really nice looking title sequences and particle effects, and cost hundreds to add to AE, but effects that do the same thing are included in VEGAS Effects.