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jetdv wrote on 3/23/2004, 1:45 PM
You don't. You CAN create regions in the trimmer and the see them in the Vegas Explorer window (if you turn on that option). Or you can render the sub clips out to separate clips. Otherwise, you don't.
poo wrote on 3/23/2004, 1:51 PM
woah! how then do i edit, say a documentary which has a giant master clip of raw footage that has to be sorted into a story?

and i tried labelling the regions, but then i can't figure out how to grab a region and put it on the timeline. it won't just highlight when i click on it.

is there a way to set an in and out point and then drag the subdivided section to the timeline at least?
jetdv wrote on 3/23/2004, 1:56 PM
As I said, you can save the regions in the trimmer and then see them in the Vegas Explorer window - just turn on the option (drop down box above the explorer window) to show regions. Then you can drag them to the timeline.

Any region can be selected in the trimmer and placed on the timeline.

Also, you can just put the clip on the timeline and select the pieces you want to keep directly from there. You can even gain some assistance by using scripts such as "Extract Good Clips" available in Tsunami.

So, there ARE solutions - just not the exact one you're looking for.
Nat wrote on 3/23/2004, 3:15 PM
Being able to drop an event in the mediapool wouldn't be luxury though....
epirb wrote on 3/23/2004, 3:40 PM
you can also spit the clip in the places you want using the "S" key then re arrange the split sections. But I agree if when you captured the footage you didnt split the tape into separate clips and its all one long clip. then Tsunami's: "extract good clips" is the best option for getting rid of all the stuff you dont need to save on the time line.

Is it too much work or even possible to recapture the tape using advanced capture(batch capture)?
poo wrote on 3/23/2004, 4:00 PM
first off, thanks to everyone for the suggestions!

unfortunately, recapture is not an option.

so with the regions, how is that different than doing clip marking? because i went through and logged everything using those marks, but with no regions. i intend to then move marked clips up to the timeline.

are there any shortcuts to jump to next or previous marks? and what are those little yellow triangles for that surround the clip mark? i noticed they will move on you. hope that doesn't screw anything up.
JackW wrote on 3/23/2004, 4:24 PM
As I understand it, you have a huge chunk of tape which you want to break up into manageable clips so you can build your story.

Put the entire master clip onto a track -- call it "Source". Create another track directly above it -- call it "Master". Use the split function to create clips in the Source track and move them up (drag and drop) to the Master track and place them where you need them in the timeline.

If you want to preserve the Source track as a reference, split out your clips and Copy them to the Master track rather than dragging and dropping.

I often create a third and fourth track, "Holding" tracks, onto which I drag clips so I can group bits and pieces which will eventually be dropped into the Master timeline.

Use the "M" key (marker) to identify clips and groups of clips and, of course, use Grouping when you're ready to move a collection of clips onto the timeline.

A well developed edit decision list helps greatly in this process.

Jack
LarryP wrote on 3/23/2004, 4:28 PM
You can also cut and paste between 2 running copies of Vegas. Use the first to select sections of your media and the second to assemble them.
poo wrote on 3/23/2004, 4:40 PM
i hadn't thought of the two running copies idea, but that's really ingenious. do i have to render to do this? or can i just yank stuff straight off the timeline into the other program?

does that take all sorts of resources to do? and can i drag/drop when i do it?

and as far as using the regions, is that linear? or can i make a region out of marked clips from all over the trimmer?

PeterWright wrote on 3/23/2004, 5:12 PM
The difference between Markers and Regions.

A Marker is a single point, whereas a Region has two - a start and a finish.

I am working on a documentary with 7 hours of footage, captured as 7 one hour clips. I have marked and named scores of regions, which gives me instant access to every part which I have identified and labelled.

The regions can be changed - in or out points - any time.

I can sort the Regions by name, so if I give them a name corresponding to where I want to use them, (e.g. A01 Wide shot outside factory, A02 Staff enter bldg .... B03 Mgr Intvw Company Policy B04 Mgr Intvw Set up new dept ....) They are sitting there as virtual sub-clips, in order, waiting to be sent to the timeline).

Another advantage is that these regions retain their identity throughout the project, whereas split events on the timeline can be moved, durations changed, or lost without trace of where they began and ended originally.

We're hoping that next version will allow regions to be able to be placed as subclips in Media Pool bins. Meanwhile, their accessibilty through Vegas Explorer is extremely functional.