successful 5.1 anyone?

zcus wrote on 2/15/2003, 11:51 PM
Is anybody using the 5.1 surround feature successfully yet? What is your setup?
I bought a 5.1 amplified speaker system at staples for 129.00 and am using the onboard 6 channel audio that is supplied on my motherboard. I am not getting good results? No audio out of the rear speakers. All the connections are right - it a very simple setup? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Spot|DSE wrote on 2/15/2003, 11:57 PM
I'd blame the motherboard in a heartbeat. Are you sure you've got 5.1 enabled on the project properties setting? FILE|Properties|AUDIO tab, 5.1 selected?
I've burned, authored, and finished at least 10 large/released projects since November with 5.1 in Vegas.
Come to the VASST seminar in LA next week, you'll see it happening from a laptop[
zcus wrote on 2/16/2003, 12:14 AM
Thanks spot - I wish I could go to see you in LA but not this time around:(
Its funny there is a demo that comes with the onboard audio(c-media) and it uses all 6 speakers and it sounds great but from Vegas its just pretty much a stereo signal and I do have the 5.1 activated from the audio prefences - so what sound card do you use or what type setup will you use on that labtop in LA? I want 5.1 panning but I don't need top quality glass shattering system that costs and arm and leg... any suggestions???
Finatic13 wrote on 2/16/2003, 3:19 AM
have you only enabled 5.1 in the audio preferances of the Properties dialogue box ??

you need to set the drivers for 5.1 up in the Prefrances,Audio Device tab, and then select the drivers in the drop down Audio Device type box, you cant just use any old soundcard drivers, SoFo did post about what these had to be a while ago(cant fins the post at the moment)if you use just the Microsoft Sound Mapper or the Windows Classic sound mapper drivers it wont work.
regards
Simon
zcus wrote on 2/16/2003, 3:41 AM
I have tried both sound mapper and windows classic drivers and nither works.
I am going to buy a sound card tomorrow with 5.1 specs. You would think that onboard 6 channel audio would cover 5.1 sound???
Finatic13 wrote on 2/16/2003, 5:50 AM
Hi
As i said in my post if you use either of sound mapper and windows classic drivers they wont work.

Best bet for budget performance is to get a creative Audigy 5.1 card or a creativelive 5.1
regards
Simon
vonhosen wrote on 2/16/2003, 6:04 AM
The Creative Audigy definitely works. You need to use the ASIO drivers though.
Acid Pro/Vegas4 need access to each individual channel which the the Sound Mapper/Window's Classic drivers don't give.
As you have discovered just because the Soundcard can play back & decode 5.1 material doesn't mean it can be used for surround panning in Vegas.

I'm not sure you can do it with the Creative Live 5.1 either. I don't think it has the ASIO drivers.
Ritchie wrote on 2/16/2003, 6:42 AM
Yes, you need ASIO drivers, which SoundBlaster Live does NOT have, so you need to go for the audigy minumum. Most motherboards I don't believe have ASIO drivers.
Finatic13 wrote on 2/16/2003, 7:57 AM
You can use the soundblaster live, just dont use the creatives drivers, use the KX ASIO drivers that are designed for the creative live 5.1
regards
Simon
blund wrote on 2/16/2003, 9:08 AM
Yup, I am using the Audigy 2 and their Creative ASIO driver - works like a charm, I have just finished 2 Music DVD's with 6.1 audio, fantastic, I have also finished 5 DVD-Audio disks in 6.1 projects using DVD Architect, I had to use ACID 4.0 AC-3 Render, but sounds great. The only problem with SF's 5.1 / AC-3 encoder is it has to be 16 Bit @ 48Khz, so I do not get the true 24 Bit @96KHz DVD Audio that I would like, but then that package would cost 3K-5K just for the MLP.
zcus wrote on 2/16/2003, 11:47 AM
Thanks - i'm off to get an Audgiy card with ASIO drivers. I appreicate the help!
Maverick wrote on 3/8/2003, 4:37 AM
Just readin g this thread and I have Creative Soundblaster Audigy.

I set the Options-Preferences-Audio Device to Creative ASIO
The following options that were offered were left;
Dafault Stereo and front playback device: Wave/MP3
Default rear playback device: Wave/MP3
Default Centre LFE playback device: Wave/MP3
Dfault Audio Encoding device: AC97 ln L/AC97 ln R

Clicking on OK gave me the error:
The device Creative ASIO does not support the current sample rate or bit depth.

Checking the audio Properties in File-properties-Audio

Sample rate is set to 44.100 Hz
and bit depth to 16
Master Bus mode is set to 5.1 and number of Stereo buses is set to 0.

Please can anyone offer some light on what is going wrong or what I may have set wrong, please.

Cheers
zcus wrote on 3/8/2003, 4:51 AM
For support with the ASIO drivers you must use 48,000 16 bit stereo - anything above or below will result in that error.
Maverick wrote on 3/8/2003, 4:56 AM
Wow. Quick response and that solved the error.

Now for some more reading of the manual and 'playing around'

Cheers

P.S. Another quick question for those in the know;

If I want to burn some some music to CD doesn't it have to be at 44.100kHz? Will I still be able to save my tracks with surround sound?

Thanks
rick4kim wrote on 3/9/2003, 9:48 AM
I am also having a problem with audigy 2, asio drivers and 5.1 sound withing vv4. Hereis the clencher: all channels work except the center channel within vv4. I tested the sound card, and it acknoledges the center channel. Yet, VV4 reads all the others EXCEPT the center channel. Tough nut to crack. Any one familiar with this? Thanks in advance.
(using logitech 5.1 speakers with the 3 analogue input to soundcard)
Finatic13 wrote on 3/9/2003, 1:04 PM
im using the exact same setup as you but with the audigy, (not audigy 2) and having no problems at all, have you raised the volume slider up along the bottom of the 5.1 panning window ??
rick4kim wrote on 3/11/2003, 6:02 PM
Thanks for responding, Simonwim,
Yes, the slider is up. Every slider registers volumn except that center channel!
Perplexed.
Laurence wrote on 3/11/2003, 11:42 PM
This may be a little late but:

I am able to do 5.1 surround using the onboard AC97 audio on my Shuttle motherboard if I use the ASIO driver overlay found here:

http://www.asio2ks.de/

You have to email the author for permission to download the beta. Limitations of the demo are that it starts beeping after ten minutes. I get six channels of ASIO 48k audio out at 2ms latency, which is pretty darned good! I am curious to know if this works for other people as well. So far it seems like quite a well kept secret.

Laurence Kingston
MrEd wrote on 3/12/2003, 2:38 AM
I am using Sound Blaster Live sound card and I have five speakers. I test it with Sound Blaster Live and each of the speakers work. Front Right, Front Left, Rear Right, Rear Left.

When I test it in Vegas only the right and the left work. Hummmmmmmm

???


Thanks

-Ed
Finatic13 wrote on 3/12/2003, 3:14 AM
this is because Vegas doesnt work with the standard creative drivers with a soundblaster live card, you need alternate ASIO drivers
regards
Simon
Finatic13 wrote on 3/12/2003, 3:15 AM
clutching at straws here but is everything connected fine with your speakers, is there a speaker test button on your soundcard/speakers software that nables you to run a test signal to each speaker?
regards
Si
craftech wrote on 3/12/2003, 7:56 AM
How about the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz? Anyone tried it with that card?
John
vernman wrote on 3/12/2003, 9:30 AM
I was using a creative live 5.1 card and replaced the drivers with one that I downloaded from www.kxproject.com version 5.10.0.3530 (available as a free download). The drivers give you complete access to each of the front, rear, center and sub channels (among other features). I replaced the card with a Santa Cruz and it rocks. Mixer and drivers work right out of the box. Low noise floor, clean a/d converters in comparison to the Live! card.

Either way both work with Vegas 4 5.1.

Good Luck

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Ritchie wrote on 4/4/2003, 11:42 AM
Okay, I have been playing with this darn thing for awhile. Panning sound all over the place with no luck, not sound out of the center channel. Finally got it to work . . .

I am using a SB Audigy 1, ASIO v2.

Anyway, to fix it - - -
double click on the surround panner and it will bring up a larger version of it. When I did this, my center channel was set to -Inf attenuation. So I wasn't getting any sound. You can grab the slider and move it up to 0dB attenuation and all is good, I know have a center channel.
Ritchie wrote on 4/4/2003, 11:42 AM
Okay, I have been playing with this darn thing for awhile. Panning sound all over the place with no luck, not sound out of the center channel. Finally got it to work . . .

I am using a SB Audigy 1, ASIO v2.

Anyway, to fix it - - -
double click on the surround panner and it will bring up a larger version of it. When I did this, my center channel was set to -Inf attenuation. So I wasn't getting any sound. You can grab the slider and move it up to 0dB attenuation and all is good, I know have a center channel.