[SUGGESTIONS] - Vegas - GUI

suitiepie wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:07 AM

Good evening from Australia.

I just wanted to suggest a couple of things. 😃

[BUG?] - The [EVENT HEADERS] on all tracks.

Sometimes, and I do not know if it is a bug or not, but sometimes I cannot drag the tracks (My Added Media) around to other layers (Vegas' Tracks). Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. This has been most notable for me when I resize the layers (Vegas' Tracks) so that only the Event Header of the tracks (My Added Media) are shown. Hopefully it is a bug and hopefully you are able to reproduce it to fix it. If it isn't a bug, then my suggestion would be to allow the tracks (My Added Media) to be moved around the layers (Vegas' Tracks) via the track's (My Added Media) Event Header too.

[BUG?] - The [Project Media] Preview area.

When I mouse over the videos and or image files, there is some kind of white bar that can be moved and if you hold the mouse down it selects a section etc and so on. I have no idea what this 'feature' is, nor do I know how to turn it off (if it is at all possible). The problem I am having is being able to left click on that media and dragging it down to the video layers (Vegas' Tracks). For some reason, when that selection bar thing appears on the media within the Project Media preview area, that's it, I'm no longer able to drag the media down. Again, it could be a bug and if so, hope you can reproduce it and fix it.

[SUGGESTION] - The [Markers/Regions Area].

When you place down a [Region Marker], is it at all possible to (along the Marker/Regions Area which is just above the timeline), is it at all possible to have the program calculate where 25% is, 50%, and 75% is, having it marked in a darker shade across the bar when that [Region Marker] is selected?
The reason for the above mentioned: Many times (and when I say many, I mean a hell of a lot of the time), Vegas will CRASH during a render. You'll not know it has crashed UNLESS you check the 'Frame' number that is ticking below the video preview window. If that 'Frame' number has stopped counting, then you're done... Vegas has crashed. That frame number NEVER matches any frame number of the actual project you're working on. What you have to go on, to find out what is going on in your project is the Rendering Percent that it stopped rendering at. For example, 50%. Obviously this one is easy to find, so if the program Vegas crashes at 50% rendering, then you can go in and look around 50% mark of your project to see if there is anything there that you may be able to fix. So, if the [Region Marker] has a percentage ruler from one of the markers to the other, that would help so much in solving many of the crashes, or at least rendering certain parts at a time. Like rendering 0% to 30% of the project as one file, then coming back and rendering 30% to 60% for the second file etc. Sometimes there isn't any obvious issue, but sometimes trying to for example render 0% to 60% may crash Vegas, yet rendering them in small separate sections works. So yeah, that'll be why I would need the above mentioned percentage ruler idea.
Assuming you decide to run with the above Region Marker Percentage Ruler idea, I would suggest also having a properties option to not just turn it off for those who don't want it, but also how often it marks the percentage. For example, you may want every 5% marked. Or maybe you want every 10% marked. Maybe you want to change it to match where the program crashed at upon a render. Maybe it crashed at 17%, so you could go in to the preferences and set 17% and quickly find that point of your project.

[SUGGESTION] - The [Timeline Bar].

Going with the idea of the percentage length of a project mentioned in the previous suggestion, it would be great to have a percentage bar above the [Timeline Bar] and below the Markers/Regions Area], so in between them. How this would work (as it would be constantly changing due to the length of your project), it would get the very end of your entire project, the last image or video put in, and then calculate the percentage accordingly, and then display it within that newly created area between the Timeline Bar and Markers Bar. Would be known as the percentage bar I guess.
The above could be something that could be turned on or off via properties, or even have it hide when the mouse is not over the Timeline Bar and Markers Bar, yet when you put your mouse over either, this new percentage bar could be revealed. Just throwing additional thoughts out for this idea.

This is my first post here, so if it is in the wrong area, please forgive me and kindly move it to the correct forum.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read my rather long winded suggestions post.

Do have a great evening!

Kind regards,

Suitiepie.

Edit:

I've been so used to graphic programs I call the Tracks 'Layers'.

Edit 2:
Edited the above information to include the Vegas' terms. Sorry about that, not being familiar with the terms used within the forum and used to so many graphics programs, I just ended up calling the Tracks, Layers. I hope all of the above is clearer. Thank you to those who aided me with the new information.

Comments

j-v wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:27 AM

Welcome @suitiepie

I think it is better to handle only one subject per post.
Therefore I try to help with subject 1, but it is for me uncertain what you exactly mean.
Better is to use also screenshots/screengrabs.
But if you mean what I show here no problem for me at VPro 17 on laptop from signature.

zdogg wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:27 AM

[BUG?] - The [EVENT HEADERS] on all tracks.

Sometimes, and I do not know if it is a bug or not, but sometimes I cannot drag the tracks around to other layers. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. This has been most notable for me when I resize the layers so that only the Event Header of the tracks are shown. Hopefully it is a bug and hopefully you are able to reproduce it to fix it. If it isn't a bug, then my suggestion would be to allow the tracks to be moved around via the track's Event Header too.

What do you mean by the term "layers." That is not part of the Vegas "lexicon" at least regarding the Timeline/GUI, so can you be very specific and define what you mean, and/or screenshot? Thanks.

suitiepie wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:35 AM

Welcome @suitiepie

I think it is better to handle only one subject per post.
Therefore I try to help with subject 1, but it is for me uncertain what you exactly mean.
Better is to use also screenshots/screengrabs.
But if you mean what I show here no problem for me at VPro 17 on laptop from signature.

Thank you j-v, that is exactly what I mean in subject 1. Sometimes this works for me, more often than not for me though, it doesn't. I literally have to resize the track to show the footage/image then move it that way.

Thank for getting back to me. Guess it's just an unfortunate bug for me.

Kind regards,
Suitiepie.

MrBender wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:41 AM

Vegas dont show in bin, when clip is used in timeline. Example in Edius there is then small green square. Would be nice to add something like this to Vegas.

suitiepie wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:46 AM

[BUG?] - The [EVENT HEADERS] on all tracks.

Sometimes, and I do not know if it is a bug or not, but sometimes I cannot drag the tracks around to other layers. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. This has been most notable for me when I resize the layers so that only the Event Header of the tracks are shown. Hopefully it is a bug and hopefully you are able to reproduce it to fix it. If it isn't a bug, then my suggestion would be to allow the tracks to be moved around via the track's Event Header too.

What do you mean by the term "layers." That is not part of the Vegas "lexicon" at least regarding the Timeline/GUI, so can you be very specific and define what you mean, and/or screenshot? Thanks.

G'day zdogg, I found the missing page of the Vegas Lexicon, I may have a different version of the Lexicon, but check the attached image. :)

Thank you for your reply.

Kind Regards,

Suitiepie.

Hmm not sure how to attach image. I'll just provide a link to the image.

https://imgur.com/a/0Fy7aDW

j-v wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:56 AM

In Vegas it is called tracks and screenshot and video's you have to add here by this button in your answers

rraud wrote on 10/25/2019, 11:58 AM

'Layers'

The think the OP's is referring to "Tracks"

suitiepie wrote on 10/25/2019, 12:03 PM

In Vegas it is called tracks and screenshot and video's you have to add here by this button in your answers

Thank you muchly. My old eyes fail me.

I refer to them as layers as they stack upon each other and using graphic programs I just got used to the term Layer. :)

Kind regards,
Suitiepie.

j-v wrote on 10/25/2019, 12:54 PM

Edit 2:
Edited the above information to include the Vegas' terms. Sorry about that, not being familiar with the terms used within the forum and used to so many graphics programs,

Has nothing to do with "terms used within the forum" , this is how it is called in Vegas and if you ask questions you have to use those terms to get an answer on this user forum.

zdogg wrote on 10/25/2019, 1:16 PM

In Vegas it is called tracks and screenshot and video's you have to add here by this button in your answers

I refer to them as layers as they stack upon each other and using graphic programs I just got used to the term Layer. :)

Kind regards,
Suitiepie.

Yes, "tracks" (for layers) and the video clip, or sound clip, whatever the case may be, is called an "event."

An honest "mistake" (not really a mistake at all, but...) Layers comes from the Photoshop world, and After Effects, so we get that, but Vegas was originally an audio program, and so those are audio "tracks" to which later they added video, and hence, video tracks. Vegas "events" are sometimes called "objects" in other programs.

'Lexicon' is generic term, not a Vegas term, more or less the dictionary of that particular realm, like the lexicon of electronics, or lexicon of the cooking trade, etc.

zdogg wrote on 10/25/2019, 1:23 PM

@suitiepie If you are new to Vegas, can I recommend what represents the easiest and best introductory series, (which will progress to an advanced intermediate level) by Andrew Devis? You can't go wrong there. It is not completely up-to-date, but the basics are the basics no matter which version of Vegas you'd be using,

http://tale2tell.com/sony-vegas-pro/

suitiepie wrote on 10/25/2019, 1:26 PM

@suitiepie If you are new to Vegas, can I recommend what represents the easiest and best introductory series, (which will progress to an advanced intermediate level) by Andrew Devis? You can't go wrong there. It is not completely up-to-date, but the basics are the basics no matter which version of Vegas you'd be using,

http://tale2tell.com/sony-vegas-pro/

Thanks for the link, zdogg.
I'm not new to Vegas, just the community here. That said, I'm sure there are a bunch of things I don't use that I could learn about. 😄

Cheers mate,
Suitiepie

zdogg wrote on 10/25/2019, 2:23 PM

I learned things there that are just not so obvious, but still fairly easy to incorporate, Vegas is more than meets the eye, it is really fairly deep, so YES, any of us, to the most advanced, would learn something there.

EricLNZ wrote on 10/25/2019, 10:09 PM

Vegas dont show in bin, when clip is used in timeline. Example in Edius there is then small green square. Would be nice to add something like this to Vegas.

Frequently asked for. Here is a recent thread https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/check-mark-in-vegas--110305/#ca732069

MrBender wrote on 10/26/2019, 2:10 AM

Vegas dont show in bin, when clip is used in timeline. Example in Edius there is then small green square. Would be nice to add something like this to Vegas.

Frequently asked for. Here is a recent thread https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/check-mark-in-vegas--110305/#ca732069

Thank you for pointing that. IMHO no solution yet.