Maybe if enough of us who are seeing/hearing this bug can bring it to their attention they might consider taking a look at fixing it?

ok so teh settings are screwed.. a quick and dirty solution is to render out each track as an individual wave file

then reimport those to a new project,

throw your video on top as a nested veg and killl off the audio from there

now remix and remaster your audio

voila quick and dirty solution

I want to automate it. Your suggestion will work but it isn't quick. 6 tracks with manually adjusted volume envelopes is a lot of work for anything complex. If you have more than 6 tracks that you're mixing down to surround it quickly becomes futile.

Yeah, I've got 40+ tracks and multiple projects...not so quick a solution. How about them just fixing the bug?

The problem is long known and was already there in Vegas 7:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=523668
The solution is NEVER to use the small surround panner in the track list. Instead always use the "Surround Panner" window (double click on the small panner to open the large window).
Unfortunately: When you once used the small panner in a project, the whole project gets "screwed up" and you can't get back to the normal behaviour. You'll have to start a new project to begin with.
Maybe there are better solutions, but that's all I could figure out so far.

Well, I never use the small panner. Apparently, never use key framing for panning should be added to that list of “do not use.” Man, I can't believe they are not trying to fix this.

Hey All,

We’ve finally gotten to the bottom of the surround sound bug, and it turns out it really was user error – with the caveat that this error even stumped the Sony Tech support people for several weeks. They have now acknowledged this as a confusing UI issue that they need to look into on future releases. Since there have been other people reporting this problem, I’m posting the solution in the hopes it might help.

The surround sound panner has two modes 1) the automation mode, and 2) the trim “offset” mode. Only one of these can be seen at a time, and the “offset” that can be set in the trim does not get visually represented in the visualization of the automation. Because of this, it is possible to have automation that shows sound being panned to a specific location, while the trim offset is actually forcing it to come from some place else.

Here is the example of exactly what happened to me. The surround sound automation panner showed the sound to be centered. However, the trim somehow got set to be mostly positioned to the Front Left. No mater how I panned the sound in the automation, the sound persisted to come mainly from the Front Left…as it should have based on the trim setting. The problem was that I was unaware of this trim offset setting. To toggle the display mode between trim and automation, you need to toggle the switch on the track automation control – make sure that “Show Automation Controls” is unchecked. Now you will see the trim setting.

I hope you find this helpful!

Admitedly the Help does say "When Show Automation Controls is not selected, the controls adjust static (trim) levels." which is an incredibly misleading statement; is not the corollary: "When Show Automation Controls IS selected, the controls DO NOT adjust static (trim) levels."??? - a fair enough user assumption.

What it does NOT SAY is that this static control REMAINS ACTIVE during automation, which I must say is at complete variance to any other mixer software I have ever encountered... and it's quite obvious that Sony Support have not been conversant with this aspect either; in my case I reported this over a year ago.

In my opinion you should disable the static control when Autom is active - it is impossible to adjust both at the same time anyway - I can't see any workflow reason why it was 'designed' like this in the first place.

How do you disable the static trim control?